Mantis

How come there are so many people saying he's crap/we should sell him? Before this happened I don't remember anybody saying such things.

Yes, Randy was a bit of a fool to give MON such a free reign. However, we all know MON is a control freak and wouldn't have accepted anything less anyway. I guess the lesson here is that we probably could've done better with a better manager.

Twist what? He's the boss, he has the final say on all money spent and he makes the decisions on who will become the manager. I'm afraid part of being the boss is taking responsibility for making the wrong decisions. Well for example, you won't seem to accept that MON is just as much if not more to blame than Randy for the finances going out of control. It's Randy's money, the buck stops with him. O'Neill was nothing more than an employee, and as owner, seemingly gave him carte blanche to spend what he likes. That's the sign of a bad owner, and a shit businessman. An owner can't be expected to know which purchases would be worthwhile and which wouldn't. Do you really think MON said to "I'm gonna buy Beye and leave him on the bench the entire season"? The thing is, when Randy finally step in, and MON resigned, he was roundly criticised on here for not backing the manager.

Ah yes, the great footballing nation of Qatar.

Twist what? He's the boss, he has the final say on all money spent and he makes the decisions on who will become the manager. I'm afraid part of being the boss is taking responsibility for making the wrong decisions. Well for example, you won't seem to accept that MON is just as much if not more to blame than Randy for the finances going out of control. I didn't realise MON did the books as well as manage the team? Why can't you understand, Randy signed the cheques and the contracts NOT MON! At the end of the day MON brought more sustained success than any recent manager and for all his faults is head and shoulders above ANY of Randy's own managerial appointments. Who is it that signs the players and negotiates the contracts? I was under the impression it was the manager... Yes, I'm not surprised MON has done more than Houllier and McLeish, what with the former having less than a year in the job and the latter having only a few months as of today. Great comparison there! Under the same conditions as MON (top teams weaker, same amount of funding etc) Houllier and McLeish would both get us where MON got us, if not higher. All Saint Martin did was get us three 6th place finishes, which had been bettered by a number of predecessors under a more difficult ownership.

Twist what? He's the boss, he has the final say on all money spent and he makes the decisions on who will become the manager. I'm afraid part of being the boss is taking responsibility for making the wrong decisions. Well for example, you won't seem to accept that MON is just as much if not more to blame than Randy for the finances going out of control.

What a shock that you've got no clue. Care to elaborate instead of just throwing out insults? Well firstly I don't think anyone has claimed randy is a bad owner just because he can't compete with man city financially. IMO he's a bad owner for a number of reasons. 1) allowing finances to spiral out of control 2) that financial breakdown leading to a good manager walking out 5 days before the season started. I also think there were other factors that led to this happening which considering MON was awarded a large compensation package Lerner must take some blame for the breakdown in their relationship. 3) appointing a manager who pretty much destroyed all the strengths of a squad that just achieved its highest points total in years. 4) leaving us in a position where Roberto Martinez wouldn't even talk to us and then going for the likes of mclaren before finally getting a manager who relegated a team twice in 3 years And even though my knowledge of NFL is minimal i do know he makes similar poor decisions which hold his other team back and that's in a sport that he fully understands. A poor sports owner who inherited all his money and has managed to do **** all with both teams he's invested in. Yes I got a scarf, a flag and once had my coach fare paid for but I expected so much more and I don't believe he needs to be stupidly rich to have done better. The problem here, is that you're blaming practically everything on Randy. According to you, it was Randy's fault finances spiraled out of control, not MON's. You then go on about how he's to blame for letting a supposedly good manager go despite the fact that that was all about him trying to get the finances in order, something you blamed him for not doing in your first point. As I've said countless times, it's a catch-22 for him. Finances spiral out of control - Randy's fault for not controlling them A "good" manager leaves - Randy's fault because he didn't back his manager Houllier or McLeish perform poorly - Randy's fault for appointing them And it goes on and on. Basically, when anything bad happens people will always twist it so that Randy is to blame.

no other prem club would come in for him imo You just keep telling yourself that.

Burkina Faso is therefore too equipped to host a tournament. How about Somalia? Would not put it past FIFA having the tournament hosted there someday. Fist the bill perfectly. Poor facilities, no real interest in football, dangerous etc.

At least try and hide your anti-England agenda. I just said it doesn't bother me that England didn't get it. Who cares if Russia haven't hosted it yet? Are we going to keep on going to more and more obscure countries to host one of the world's biggest sporting tournaments? By the looks of it, we are. Russia, Qatar. What next? Burkina Faso?

More like, Russia got it because it paid the most bribe money. On footballing grounds, it's impossible to justify Russia getting the World Cup ahead of England, Spain & Portugal and Netherlands & Belgium.

What a shock that you've got no clue. Care to elaborate instead of just throwing out insults?

Who has suggested that drink driving now makes him a bad footballer? Well, considering before this incident nobody said they thought he should be sold, now all of a sudden he's shit and half the forum hates him. Ridiculous, especially regarding the headers. His job isn't to win headers. With his height what do you expect? Bent doesn't win many headers either, but that doesn't make him a bad player.

The reason its not front page in spain is because they are a country that accepts racism in football. Sour grapes for not winning the World Cup? what a load of crap, our bid was by far the best and for it to go to Russia says it all really. Zatman in anti English shocker. Agreed. To be honest it didn't bother me much that we didn't get it - it's the fact that Russia, a country that was not as well equipped to host the World Cup than all the other hosts, won it. Also racism is pretty rife in Russian football.

Come off it. Are we not allowed to dislike Blatter without being accused of sour grapes? His comment was ridiculous. Nothing to do with the World Cup.

Indeed. We can't afford to compete with the very best financial, therefore Randy's a bad owner and he should sell to somebody even richer.

What he did was a disgrace, but at the same time that suddenly doesn't make him a bad footballer like some are suggesting.

I agree. Also, why do people think that if Randy were to sell that would suddenly mean mega rich Russians/Arabs?

So who's disputing it then?

**** of Barcelona. Always hated that club.

But Richard, how can you say that when you've never met the man in real life?

Anyone else in row 20 upper?

yes because Blatter had brainwashed all them members of the World Cup committee including some who were black to vote for Russia. I never said he did that, but there's no doubt that it was rigged.

Which is why I think he is overrated because people believed that of Gazza. He had the potential to be, and a decent world cup, but Beckam, Platt, Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard are all better players then Gazza was, with far less talent. How can you be a better player if you're less talented ? Talent would be my first point of call when classing a player . :? It's all about the application. Look at Stephen Ireland for example. Supposed to be a very talented player but not very good at applying it.

agreed, added to the fact that he's an average footballer Agreed. Bring back the great Ethan Moore.