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NSWE have demonstrated that they have "sensible" ambition. There are a multitude of reasons why the NS is delayed/cancelled (even though that has not been officially confirmed). I think Heck has outlined some reasons but not all the reasons. The club mentioned wanting to deliver some benefits of Villa Live in a quicker fashion when the warehouse was announced. Money/P&S/FFP will be major factors. OBE has already alluded to the club monetizing areas within VP for hospitality. I think in the short term the club are being financially stable/sustainable, and are focused on building the sporting/commercial aspect of the club. The board would have played a blinder having VP selected for the Euros without the major construction of Villa Live & North Stand which was initially proposed. It isn't that far fetched that a bigger project could arrive which ties Villa Live/V Sports/Villa Park/Atairos (poss other local entities) all together. Wouldn't it be lovely to unveil new re-development plans on the club's 150th year birthday

Would it be feasible to build a new stadium with more land near the new inner city academy?

I think that is happening tbh. I think the sporting aspect is NSWE's main objective (rightfully so) - that is the product and in which everything is linked around. But the fans could have more offerings and a better match day experience than is currently available at VP. I think that is the attraction to a new stadium, I also believe a little fear of seeing other clubs taking those steps to build new stadiums/entertainment/leisure zones is making us a bit jealous and nervous. At the end of the day, a new mega stadium is a bit of fun and fantasy. I think most of us want a successful sporting side rather than a concrete entertainment/event shell. Aston Villa is football.

What do you think the club should do in regards to VP/New Stadium?

I think it was "shit, we need somebody who can manage these lot for a few games until we hire our next hollywood coach" - it is predictable attention seeking noise.

No official confirmation of the North Stand being cancelled. We will get a clearer picture within the next 12-16 months if the North Stand is truly cancelled.

London is over saturated. Birmingham/West Midlands is ripe for growth.

I badly worded that. The likes of Thomas Shelby didn't exist. Billy Kimber was the only fictional brummie character (even he was born in Aston ) Steve Knight is using blues as a marketing vehicle for his TV/Digital content. Listening to that Wagner bloke - it is entertainment before the sporting side. The guy wants to compete with Disney and Netflix. "Young kids aren't watching football anymore, so we have decided to disband the team." The focus of their club is very much on being an entertainment outlet rather than a sporting one. John Eustace wasn't hollywood enough for them, not hip or swanky enough.

@bickster - Your take is very NW and London centric. Birmingham/West Midlands has the capacity to take on the North West & London in the longer term. Villa will be an anchoring force in that goal.

Carl Chinn has already said the Peaky Blinders didn't exist and those who resembled those people were absolute scum. Popularising gangsterism....

So you are saying relocate to London?

It is just a bit of fun guys. At the moment we are just getting a polished up VP in the coming seasons, it is what's on the pitch that matters anyway.

Yh. Wagner has said that is a stadium that will welcome all fans even if they support a rival club/team.

I can imagine the owners thinking about a bigger stadium and a remote, accessible location in the long term. If we build near the HS2 interchange there is a strong probability that we could grow our fan base, resources & revenue thus become one of the biggest clubs in the world. This location could potentially be a game changer if done correctly. The biggest club in the West Midlands being at the heart of the country that links north to south would be very fitting imo. The V Sports West Midlands sporting complex/campus/Resort? Slightly off topic but Blues are apparently looking at the wheels site. They are trying to build a sports quarter similar to Manchester City's campus (I want something similar at VP too). I saw a clip on social media of that Wagner bloke saying they are competing against Netflix & Apple, not directly against one rival club. He also welcomes fans in the area who support other teams to come down to St Andrews. I think he need to get real. SHA are heading to League 1. It also smells like the Ricoh mk2. Back on topic. In the short to medium term we will be at a polished VP but I do suspect the owners will be planning for the future. I believe NSWE are doing it "right" - We have been on a journey since 2018, and the first team is currently in the process of building a sporting portfolio to back up any future growth plans. It is exciting. I trust NSWE/V Sports will make the bigger leap in ambition when the time is right. UTV!

I think that is harsh on the owners imo. Saved us from going out of business and restored us back at the top. I think the club is boxing clever, it is adapting to the challenges of the league/europe. We need to get behind them until they give us real reason to question their intentions.

Villa's new stadium announced April 8th - A new build at the wheels park. A Claret and Blue dome built in the shape of a boot towering over St Andrews - just for our u21 team though.

I agree to an extent. I am probably jumping the gun, I just believe the club can become global and reach that level of demand based on sporting merit - I don't think VP can hold the owners' ambitions. We will see though.

There are so many obstacles to overcome for VP to become a mega stadium and complex that all of us deserve. I think the best we are going to get in the short term is a small increase to 46k, improved Witton station for euros and refurbed existing facilities.

The West Midland Metro is extending to the HS2 interchange. So more transport links. Maybe a bigger stadium (70k plus) with a sporting resort is the long term goal for the club. Wembley of the West Midlands housed by the biggest club in the region.

Yes, it will be more difficult. The club will probably need to buy the houses/road behind the stand too. I am just interested to know whether it could be redeveloped without the stand being demolished/lost of capacity. And with the Trinity Rd hospitality over subcribed - does a side stand make economic sense rather than rebuilding the north? Could Witton fund the north stand rebuild? Liverpool's new main stand is 21k - if a new witton lane stand is similar that would put us at 54k.

We are the top club in the West Midlands.

Could the club be looking at re-developing the Witton Lane Stand before the North Stand?

Over a redeveloped VP? Hmmm I still believe the overwhelming fanbase will choose VP over a new stadium. It is just my gut feeling.

I understand where you are coming from, even though it is crazy to limit the growth (and existence) of the club because of nostalgia/personal experiences. I want to stay at VP before any alternative. It is unique. I just don't want the club to stand still at VP. We deserve a re-developed VP with modern facilities & transport links. If that is not possible, a new stadium becomes a real possibility. The club has to think of the next generation of fans too. This is just the naked truth. Other major clubs are planning to expand their offerings. If you are happy just to do nothing then that is equally selfish, stubborn and arrogant. It isn't change for change sake - it is to ensure Villa stay relevant in modern football and the club's heritage is well respected.

I think I can safely say all of us want to stay at Villa Park, but we deserve a 21st century experience at VP. The club has to be viable long term too. Not wanting to change is dated and stubborn thinking. Precisely one of the reasons the council is bankrupt is because it has backed the wrong horses. Poor strategic investments decisions have finally caught up. It has failed to invest in it's sporting properties compared to the other major cities. This is precisely the time you back Villa - we are on the ascent to glory. We are the most successful sporting item in the City & West Midlands. A world class VP/ new stadium would be a beacon for the City/ West Midlands. Moving is the last resort but the infrastructure needs improving and enhancing.