paul514

Einstein thinks it depends how many clubs want him, 20-25m minimum he could go to low 30's

Lay off the crack then, that valuation has no grounding in reality for a home grown player in his mid 20's that is proven Premier League quality.

It isn't just that it's the age profile of our centre backs and the wages he is on. We need another centre back who can pass like Pau, Todibo can do that, and isn't going to cost more in wages.

I say no, MGW is a forward, we have Diaby and Bailey for that position.

He is worth that kind of figure he is a really solid mid table right back, he just isn't good enough for a team that wants to be in a European competition every year.

correct and the player brought would have his fee amortized over the length of whatever contract he signs.

Yep, and he showed before we signed him on a permanent contract that he wasn't physically up to it anymore anyway!

So I am doing an updated list which will be much the same but for the moaners who think Frimpong isn't a right back, I know who you are already, yes, YOU! I am also removing the Watkins sale from the initial sales..... more on that later. I have also been reassessing the midfield so I will copy/paste/edit my post from page 21 - after all it is sunday night during an international break. These are the players I would sell/release in the summer all figures are in euros and from Transfermarkt. The amortized value is what he costs us per year on the accounts and the book value is the total amount of amortization left until he he has a value of zero for FFP. This means for an FFP profit on a player he must be sold for more than his book value. I also think it is worth mentioning how these values are worked out.... lets say we sign a player on a 5 year contract for 50m. After 3 years we sign him to a new 5 year contract this means for the first 3 years he is with us he amortizes at 10m per year making his book value 20m when he signs a 5 year extension to his contract. He will then amortize at 4m per year for the next five years. I hope that is simple to understand. Lenglet - End of loan Zaniolo - End of loan Chambers - 29 in the summer, 1 year left on his deal brought for 0m, House - 29 in the summer, 1 year left on his deal brought for 3.4m, I don't have exact FFP figures for him as I didn't know the length of his first contract with us but it will be a negligible amount of amortisation left Carlos - 31 in the summer, 2 years left on his deal brought for 31m He is amortizing at 7.75m per year and his book value in the summer will be 15.5m Digne - 31in the summer, 2 years left on his deal, brought for 30m. He is amortizing at 6.66m per year and has a book value of 13.33m Cash - 27 in the summer, 3 years left on his deal, brought for 15.75m He is amortizing at 1.58m per year and has a book value of 4.74m Dendonker - 29 in the summer, 2 years left on his deal, brought for 15m He is amortizing at 3.75m per year and has a book value of 7.5m Sanson - 30 in the summer, 1 year left on his deal, brought for 15.8 million euros He is amortizing at 3.95m per year as he only has one year left on his deal his book value is also 3.95m Coutinho - 32 in the summer, 2 years left on his deal, brought for 20 million euros He is amortizing at 5m per year and has a book value of 10m The total amortization per year of all the players mentioned is 28.69m Euros which is 24.61m Pounds The total book value of all the players mentioned is 55.02m Euros which is 47.19m Pounds My aim will be to cut the fat off the squad and then trying to bring in a smaller amount higher quality players as a whole without breaking FFP restrictions and reducing the wage bill as PSR (profit and sustainability rules) is changing meaning we have to bring our wage bill down to 70% of our revenue within a couple of years. So in short IF you can sell/release all those players and receive 47.2m for them we don't make an FFP loss on their book value and we don't have to amortised 24.6m on next years accounts for owning them So moving on to incomings. The price tags for my suggestions are from media reported figures The links are for their transfermarkt profile and their scouting report from FBREF for their data. Jean-Clair Todibo, 24 - Centre back, Nice, 35m I want this player as he is a lot like Pau Torres and we have all seen how much we missed him whilst he was injured taking the ball out of defence and his skill with progressive passes. He will be genuine competition for Konsa and will probably win out in that race. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jean-clair-todibo/profil/spieler/605184 https://fbref.com/en/players/88f130ed/scout/365_m1/Jean-Clair-Todibo-Scouting-Report Adrien Truffert, 22 - Left back, Rennes, 20m I think this guy is already as good as what we already have but he has a high ceiling and time on his side to reach that potential. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/adrien-truffert/profil/spieler/654539 https://fbref.com/en/players/5d0e0a1f/scout/365_m1/Adrien-Truffert-Scouting-Report Lutsharel Geertruida, 24 in the summer, Right back, can play centre back too, Feyenoord, 30m Very good passer and more of a defensive right back, fairly tall for a full back these days too. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lutsharel-geertruida/profil/spieler/420210 https://fbref.com/en/players/242e1043/scout/365_m2/Lutsharel-Geertruida-Scouting-Report#all_scout_summary Mats Wieffer 24, - Defensive Midfield, Feyenoord, 25m Stats are off the charts, nice and tall too for all you heighists out there. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mats-wieffer/profil/spieler/415381 https://fbref.com/en/players/4876c9ab/scout/365_m2/Mats-Wieffer-Scouting-Report Maxence Caqueret - Central Midfield but very similar to Luiz, 24, Lyon, 25m Great in tight spaces again off the chart stats. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/maxence-caqueret/profil/spieler/395237 https://fbref.com/en/players/f81ef10d/scout/365_m1/Maxence-Caqueret-Scouting-Report Jonathan David, 24 - Striker, Lille, 25m (1 year left on contract) I picked him as he should be relatively straight forward for us to pick up, he plays somewhat similarly to Watkins but he is not a carbon copy. His record last year was excellent and his data for this year is very good. If he had more shooting opportunities then his numbers would be much higher. He is the second highest scorer in Ligue 1 and doesn't get many shooting opportunities because of the team he plays for, you will get a peek at him in our next conference league game. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jonathan-david/profil/spieler/533738 https://fbref.com/en/players/ce50fd99/scout/365_m1/Jonathan-David-Scouting-Report So according to the figures I have used for purchasing these players that is 160m Pounds, NOW is the time to invest. I can't know if we could get them to sign a 5 year or 4 year contract so I am going to list both and it would probably be somewhere in between. So the 160m amortized over 5 years would be 32m per year or over 4 years it would be 40m As the suggested sales/released are amortizing at 24.6m Pounds my suggestions increase amortization by 7.4m to 15.4m per year over what it is currently. Which is why I have taken Watkins off the sale list even though I feel now is the time to sell. I have been led to believe our three year FFP loss is 90m currently after all the deductions so with increased revenue and the wages of the departing players as far as I know that shopping list is affordable. I think those players would effectively lock off all the positions throughout the team other than our wide midfielders (the Ramsey/McGinn roles). It also brings down the age of the squad significantly, the players are signed for 'modest fees' so we have better prospects of FFP profits moving forward with the squad I have also currently left off Tielemans, when signing those two central midfielders he becomes a very high wage luxury player. If you binned him off for 20m you get to save about 7m a year in wages and make an FFP profit off my suggestions, whilst keeping Watkins and having more REAL options all over the pitch.

Should add Carlos to that list and replace with one player - Todibo

I just saw David is available in the summer for 25-30m due to 1 year left on his deal

I think we are fine with our forwards, it’s right back and DM we need new starters in. all the other positions for me are about making deals happen to lower the wage bill and age profile of the players who don’t play/fringe players which is why I would trade so much this summer.

If 11 men are attacking you, you need a tight back door

the average PL wage is something like 78k a week......

I support the ban, but whilst it isn't here yet we should take the money. We NEED to get all the revenue we can as we have no where near as much income as our current competitors.

Ramsey is our ball carrier which is what Grealish mainly does and he is obviously better. He clearly fits

we are 15m under the 3 year limit and will now have a substantially higher income next season due to CL and sponsors. We can also cut wages with our fringe players going by a hell of a lot and we can sell 1 star for big money to spend a lot.

great news these new deals push us away from bottom half revenues to something like 8th

obviously

I'd love him to be our ball carrier again

Your calculations are correct, the book value will be 50m in the summer, as for the rest of your calculations it depends how Man City see it and their FFP position to replace him. If the deal was 40m, 200k a week for 4 years I would do the deal. If it was higher, I wouldn't as there is no resale value no matter how good Jack is.

Yes, he would slot into left midfield. I would love him to come back but it would depend on what City wanted as a fee and what Jack would accept for wages.

If I were a footballer I don't think I would even want to play international football. I'd rather take the rest and play for longer

it can be separate stands inside with a fancy bowl skin on the outside that some clubs have gone for Edit - I also want to say those skins are replaceable too if fashions change

Goal record of 1 in 2 is the best of anyone on that list

less than a couple of houses