trimandson

Er, no, not pathetic at all, I may be a raver but classical is top too you know. Er, it was a joke. Tchaikovsky's 6th is the "Pathetique". Ha, you caught me out you rogue!

Yes you will, Magners is the Devils Piss. You should've been regretting it the moment the ice touched you lips.

www.spotify.com Download, install, open and search for music. You won't find as much Kenny Hawkes, Bukem et al as you'd hope, but there's still a vast quantity of the free streaming music on there, and it's totally legal. It's the best piece of software in Europe ever. Not only is it that good, you can make shared playlists, so I can make a playlist and you can add to it, and I can listen and vice versa. It's a doer, do it now.

Yeah, never aggressive (from personal experience obviously, I've not conducted a survey) just turns you into a complete and utter mong. Strange, but in the right situation, highly enjoyable

Grolsch is lovely, but it gives me a rather horrible drunkness. Like a THICK drunk. If you think Stella makes you angry, Grolsch makes you docile. It's hard to explain, but it's very nice anyway.

Enough about how you and Laura amuse yourselves... Haha, she'll be round to pop you in the eye if you suggest that I've been on her shizzle! I'm waiting for my birthday for that (I'm ajoking ladywife x)

You'd think so... So no, and Wiki said so I stand corrected. So it was the Harvey Haddix of weekends... Perfection until the very end, but the greatest weekend in history? I know not of this rounders you quote Ramsey! All I say is, the maximum perfect score was 10, I'd exceeded and got to 12, lack of Red Stripe meant minus one, so I'm currently 11, I still have a buffer on the perfect perfectness of the weekend of one. And now it's Monday too! Most Perfect Weekend in EUROPE!

Aaaah Stevie. Some of his tunes, absolutely superb, some absolute shite. Which is bad when you realise he's released about 57 albums, and only about 15 good tunes. The Best Of... or Hits album is the safest bet in my eyes. PS - Got Spotify?

Got spotify?

You'd think so... So no, and Wiki said so

Er, no, not pathetic at all, I may be a raver but classical is top too you know. If you've got on Spotify yet, and lets be honest, who hasn't, try Ludovico Einaudi for something to get a maximum chill onto. The absolute shizzle baby, I'm on the vibe currently.

Drink of KINGS! Stella tonight, no Red Stripe at the garage booooooo. The near perfect way to finish the perfect weekend

Yes, you're right - sorry I was getting my thieving ex-CEOs mixed up. :winkold: His pension pot is a mere £2.4 million. Good.

Well, my team, 4/5 (one off having a baby, weak). The team we're in, 25ish, maybe 30. In the whole company (BM, part of HBoS, building society) there's around, and I say this loosely because of PT/FT FTE and all, 1.5-2k over two sites. (Only BM) The unions have been nothing but horrible irritations in the whole thing personally so far. They've done my fruit. And I hope I get my bonus mate, I've spent 12 months reporting on the business (being a Business Analyst and all), and less money because of the business and the change freeze, I feel as though I deserve it mate. It's definitely been the busiest 12 months of my life. But, what can you do eh?

And he also has a pension pot of around £8m, I believe. I don't think it's quite that much, and he's also lost some serious money in shares. He took his last bonus in shares, which subsequently dropped about 85-90% I believe. I double check though figures mind, it was a few months ago now. Again, I might be wrong, I'm a mere worker after all

Very good read Drat that, and concludes with something someone told me a few years ago about working practice. You know, going slightly OT on the whole subject, one of the most disappointing things in this whole scenario has been the Union. Massively so. They seem to be playing strictly for new members and nothing else. No interest in what's going on. I also thought a lot more of them before this situation, now I'm actually quite angry with them. They've offered nothing. That's a big **** up for a union to a 70k workforce (obviously not all members like).

I agree with that comment 100% Trim. There are a lot of city people still making money out of all of this. Some still contribute heavily to a certain party too but that is another subject Very true, and more then anything I point at Mr Hornby as an example. He's being paid A LOT of money for his consultancy role. Haven't Lloyds been thru a takeover before, it can't be that hard surely.

Sorry Trim - I misread your post there - apologies As for the bonus thing, this goes back to a previous thread in the way that people are paid now. A Bonus should never be guaranteed. I agree from what you are saying that in a typical world you should be rewarded for what seems to be a very good job, but unfortunately the world at the moment is crazy. I work for a company that made record profits and what do they do? cut wages and lay off people, it's ridiculous and people are afraid to stand up against it because it's not the wisest thing at the moment to start shouting. The killing off of the major union powers has somewhat given nearly all the power back to the employer rather than any for the employee. Don't forget also, the "other lot" may well have let the company go to the wall, which would have been a lot worse than what has happened to date I agree with that tenfold, and echoed the exact same statement last year when people didn't get their 20% etc of what they expected (ultimately it's called a BONUS, people forget this). But my sector broke 1.4bn in profit. Not bad. Why shouldn't I get a payout?

How could they have not known about 10bn?

Ian, you and I both don't know the full details of the Lloyds takeover, but it wouldn't surprise me if in future years it is investigated somewhat seriously. The losses of 10bn are, IMO, somewhat massively over-exaggerated. I would suggest that before the takeover that figure would be nowhere near (I may be wrong obviously, I'm not at a level to know this). There are a lot of people in this whole takeover who will do seriously well while I suffer on my <20k wage.

eh? Sorry Trim I don't get you. From the BBC article above it shows that someone in RBS lied. How is that the Gvmts fault again? The PM has said that now they are going after Goodwin with as much legal force as there is out there. I bet the RBS board room shredder will be busy RBS is a different company Drat, I'm talking strictly HBoS and Lloyds here. The point I'm making is, why let a such a deal go through quite so quickly, and then punish people making money for the business? Why shouldn't I get a bonus this year, if I contributed towards a 1.4bn profit? And my information on RBS is rather sketchy truth be told, but my understanding is there were a fake truths told with RBS, but it was something never properly researched by the Government? I may be wrong and happily corrected if that is the case.

THAT'S CAROLINE QUENTIN!

Right, firstly, let me explain the set-up.... Lloyds Banking Group took over HBOS who had several (5 I think) different sections in the business, one of which being Retail and another being Corporate I work in part of Retail (it consists of several separate parts and companys) who made a profit (HBoS only Retail) of 1.4bn last year whilst (HBoS only) Corporate have last (I think) 7.8bn.... (surely a massively over-exaggerated figure to make the takeover a lot more feasible IMO? It's a loss based on revaluation of the business, after a somewhat (IMO) dubious Government enforced takeover). After the takeover, Chief Andy Hornby is told he has to waive any notice period, any bonus's, basically leave with nothing. Which he does. And is then taken on as a Consultant to the takeover CLICKY yet I'm today informed (keeping in mind in would take me 4 years to earn 60k currently, because I'm not being paid my true wage, because of a 'Change Freeze' across HBoS, because of the 'Credit Crunch') that it's down to the Government whether or not I get a bonus this year. I worked, aswell as many MANY of my colleagues, my **** arse off this year, and being in MI now, I've been working ever harder, for less money then I should, reporting on the shit that is now giving the Government a choice on my 10-15% annual bonus?! I tell you what, Labour will not get my vote again if they make the wrong decision here. I don't want payrises in the future, I don't want shares (which consequently have dropped about 20% when I left work today) I want the money that is almost effectively promised at the start of every year in bonus payments. We make over 1bn in Retail, yet they can't offer 10% of my salary for which I haven't stopped working for? **** that. Labour can eat my shit from hereon if they **** this up. Level 1s thru to Level 4s, 5s and even 6s aren't any more responsible for this shit then the Government are. Absolute arseholes man.

No way man, a hand shandy is good, but not a patch on sex. Not enough close.

How in gods name can anyone even suggest giving up sex? Man, if I went 6 weeks without it would drive me up the **** wall