ml1dch
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Well, it was the response that you gave when asked how things are going to work now we're leaving.
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So to solve all the problems that this is going to create, we do something that we can do now and could have done at any point in the last forty years?
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Cool, the conversation has now caught up to summer 2016. Now, how is this thing you decided you wanted going to actually work?
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Yeah, second referendum! Right guys? I'm sure loads of people get it now...
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Following the successful no confidence votes in Hoey and Field on the Labour side, the Tories have a bit less luck: https://order-order.com/2018/07/30/soubry-defeats-deselection-plot-as-association-chairman-resigns/
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Which contradictions do you feel that it solves? I might be missing the wood for the trees here, but I can't think of much that it solves on it's own.
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In which case, I have good news. The weather means that crop yields are massively down, meaning there is much less to pick anyway.
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But also their autumn "no deal awareness plan" has to be shelved, due to the panic it will cause. So after 18 months of leavers whining that the thing that means we're not taken seriously is the show that we're ready to walk away, it's taken around ten days of "showing we're ready to walk away" for them to realise that if the public at large find out what walking away means there would be chaos. Solid work once again.
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I'd describe it in that there have been worse politicians in terms of their policies, but at least they were implemented properly. There have been worse politicians at getting things done but they weren't complete halfwits. I can't think of many where the quadfecta of bad policy, bad administration from both sides of the house all met in the middle of the Venn diagram. Which I think is broadly along your lines above.
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Frank Field too apparently. Good riddance to the pair of them.
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Another thing - This now has to reference the transition period, the existence of which it treats as established fact. Which it isn't. In other news, the bus has come back out.
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Dominic Raab tells the Brexit Select Committee that the government has no plans to draw a border down the “Red Sea”*. If there was one thing that this hopeless shower haven't done yet to make things worse, it's trying to carve up bits of the Middle East in the name of Project Ignorance. *He did quickly correct himself and say he meant the Irish Sea.
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I was curious, so thought I'd check: Did you know that the last time you posted on any subject other than anti-Semitism in the Labour party was March 5th? Edit - it was about you weeing in your own garden, if you're interested?
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If we find that millions of people are voting for UKIP or a newly wealthy party under the leadership of Yaxley-Lennon because "the establishment has betrayed them", then yes, I would consider it a bad thing.
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That wouldn't solve the problem. Someone who voted to leave, who expects the Government to follow through with what they were promised is unlikely to be placated by continued membership, even if it has got a superficial cherry on top of it. There are a lot of very angry, very shouty people out there, and for the foreseeable future they annoyingly have democratic legitimacy on their team.
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I'd say we're pretty screwed even then. I don't think that there will riots if we just call the whole thing off, but if a large section of society (rightly or wrongly) feels disenfranchised, making them feel further disenfranchised isn't a path to a happy, reunited country. Particularly when you consider the amount of economic and political capital the likes of Mogg and Farage will make out of pouring oil on that particular fire.
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You do get "neat, from Messi" though. And I'd guess it's not an accident.
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(this year, not in total, not that it changes the point) Personally, I'd say that the less time that tits like Raab and Davis spend getting in the way, the better.
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So it would seem Shotguns and rationing it is then.
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EU publishes its " in the event of no arrangement" clarifications. I just hope that the blame if this collapse happens is pointed squarely towards Westminster, where it belongs.
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They did it in the dying throes of the Major government as well. They'd paired three Conservative MPs with three Labour and three Lib Dem MPs.
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While I'm in pretty broad agreement with your whole post, which other proposals do you feel would have been worth including in such a survey?
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And in other "half-witted former cabinet ministers" news, David Davis and his cohorts are planning to use a "humble address" to force publication* of the DexEU version of the white paper. That's the very same freedom of information loving David Davis who fought tooth and claw to prevent any shred of information being released when he was in charge (sic). *Although given anyone can read the whole, unabridged thing on the ConservativeHome website already, I'm not sure why they're bothering.
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Maybe I'm missing something obvious that someone can explain to me, but why is there this feeling that a new election is going to be a panacea that solves this problem? Does the inevitable minority Labour government propped up by SNP and Lib Dem votes suddenly mean that their policy stops being an incomprehensible, illiterate mess? Would even a large Conservative or Labour majority (which would seem to be nigh on impossible at the moment) stop their policies from being an incomprehensible, illiterate mess?
