Gringo

The dollar started falling because of obama's spending plans and as a counterbalance to rising oil.

UK short-selling ban to be lifted Learning from Mistakes: The Short Sale Ban

I vote for an uprising.

Hey they're just playing catch up: Magic Lantern Cyber Knights

smack 'er up for burning the dinner again.

We have become what we beheld

stat whinge Sky did not invent soccerball

UK banks face £70bn property bombshell That's not a light at the end of the tunnel, that's an express choo-choo.

Following on from jeremy clarksons 'end of days' rant, it is interesting to note the turmoil running through greece at the moment and whether other areas are also close to 'boiling over' Those Greek Riots Time to stock up on bottled water, tin food, bullets etc.

That's teh big worry - we haven't even started into this slump yet

We must be in trouble if jeremy clarkson can see it coming End of Days

Short and shallow Back to 3m unemployed by the autumn

No it's not - from another thread

yes yes, we know - it's a global problem. But the fact that the £ is falling against the rest of the major world currencies shows that the problems in UK plc are much greater than those in 'world plc'. The £ is falling as the UK debt balloons and still further unfunded spending commitments are announced. As much of the debt is going to be funded by offshore funds, the pressure on the £ will continue and the cost of this debt increases (relative to the position where a strong pound existed).

Police and government disinformation

The PBR splurge already has the country on that road.

Seconded

Nope - I think you will find the Mail is against the DNA databaseNo they're not. They're against a universal DNA database. Quite a big difference which tends to negate the examples offered so far. If it wasn't so serious Gringo I think I would laugh at your comments there. A couple of quick questions for you - Should DNA evidence be available for use by the police to prove guilt or innocence? - How and when should DNA be taken? - Are crimes only committed by people who have offended before and may have passed on their DNA details? Bottom line are you against DNA based evidence or not? I'm sure we've been through all this before. No I am not against the use of DNA based evidence, yes I am against a universal DNA database. You seem to struggle to understand that point of view. I love the fact that the people on VT who moan the most fail to substantiate any reason why the dna of innocent people should be stored on a govt database. All the examples offered where DNA evidence has fingered people are cases where the DNA of innocents was not involved. "the civil liberties of the victims" - very daily mail. How many cases of people without convictions on the database have later been fingered for crimes? ie how effective is the current trawl of samples before extrapolating hyptheticals

Nope - I think you will find the Mail is against the DNA databaseNo they're not. They're against a universal DNA database. Quite a big difference which tends to negate the examples offered so far.

And he would still have been caught if innocent peoples DNA was removed from the database - so the point being made is lost a bit really.

would have been solved without DNA. Ah well just as long as the civil liberties of the scum of society are not being offended in any way and we can forget about the civil liberties of the families and victims of the crimes. A real reason for celebration, I'm sure I wonder how many of them would have been matched against the DNA taken from those convicted of offences. Do they split the data out that way to allow a fair analysis of the situation. Does anyone complain about the matching and storing of the DNA of convicted criminals? They do however complain about innocents getting caught up in the trawl. So not great news for criminals - they are still on the database. Great news for people who have been wrongly arrested by police.

We all love the EU, We all love the EU

Yep - fully agree with that. Implementing this new nhs database for example has cost quite a bit of cash. Thats why i am saying ridding the idea of databases of information with everyone just having all of their own data on their own ID card. Never going to happen like that of course. Thats probably an idea that is too simplistic to be fair but in theory ID cards could work as long as they were used in the situations which were actually a help. utterly ridiculous idea - could never happen - how could capita make money out of that

No tony - that was the volunatry ID cards that work at keeping us safe. These are the mandatory cards that keep darkies out.