rodders0223

I say we submit the following cheeky bids, cheeky bids, no harm done, you gotta chance your luck now and again . Benzema - a cheeky bid of £2.5m and a contract of £10k a week, £50k per goal and £50k appearance fee. Cheektastic. Vidal - a cheeky bid of £1.8m, and a contract of £20k a week, £50k appearance bonus, £5m after 20 league goals in a season, £5m after winning the league.Cheektacular Ramos - Cheeky bid of £500k, basic wage of £15k a week, clean sheet bonus £50k a week, team of the season bonus £2m. Cheekorama!

We put in a cheeky bid of £1m for Isco and Di Maria and 50% sell on clause, and offered them Tonev and Luna part ex. It's a cheeky bid, you never know.

A bid, that is considered cheeky. It's not exactly a difficult one to work out. Football is business, there is no such thing as 'a cheeky bid' Clubs either want to sell him or they don't, Isco either would want to come or he wouldn't. A bid is a bid, multi million pound deals, this isn't **** ebay. ...we sound almost as bad as Newcastle. Isco is one of the most gifted players of his generation, this is a club that has just signed Senderos. Work it out.

Please don't try and justify the notion that a player like Isco would have any interest what so ever in coming here

Well looks like they are signing SIgurdsson who is a class player. If Bony does go they will get massive money for him.

...and what the hell is a 'cheeky bid' Can anoybody explain this commonly used ridiculous phrase?

Isco to Villa?!?!??!!?!?!??!?!??!?!

Not really, it would be a complete waste of everyone's time. Isco...to Villa?! Really?!?! Really?!?!?!?!

A greedy mercenary who didn't try one bit at QPR, then ****ed off when they were relegated? No thanks.

A chance of making the bench now and again?

He is the next biggest ego in line so of course he will be.

They were all quality players, that is the thing. Gerrard was a quality player,no doubt. The second we came up against any decent team in the knockouts we failed, miserably. We never came close to achieving expections. Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, Rio, Terry, Cole, Neville, Owen. Great players, shame 3 of them for 20 caps too many.

...but we didn't beat them. We never came close, we conceded a goal and Stevie Me goes missing again.

Are you comparing Baggio in 94 to Gerrard in 06? If so then that is a hell of a stretch my friend. Baggio was sensational the whole tournament, so for me, the penalty miss never tainted his tournament. Gerrard's penalty miss was a in the midst of a long line of England bottling jobs for him.

Scored a great penalty in 2006 against Portugal and was brilliant when Germany dicked all over us in 2010. Yes lets selectively ignore the goals and assists he got in both those world cups. Well the assists and goals don't matter if you can't do it when it counts Only losers would qualify any major tournament he entered as successful, and the notion he performed for us even remotely when it mattered is laughable, Over 100 caps, amazing. Baggio missed a penalty in the shoot out in 1994. Did he have a bad tournament too? Gerrard scored a good goal and played well against USA and got another assist too. He played well against the USA? That is quite a feat tbf.

Scored a great penalty in 2006 against Portugal and was brilliant when Germany dicked all over us in 2010. Yes lets selectively ignore the goals and assists he got in both those world cups. Well the assists and goals don't matter if you can't do it when it counts Only losers would qualify any major tournament he entered as successful, and the notion he performed for us even remotely when it mattered is laughable, Over 100 caps, amazing.

Scored a great penalty in 2006 against Portugal and was brilliant when Germany dicked all over us in 2010.

Name these 3 good tournaments please. My facourite was Euro 2004 the one where we battered France for 90 minutes and Stevie Me played a blind ball back to James in goal

There is a reason Liverpool didn't win the title and that is that they conceded too many goals, there is a reason Liverpool conceded too many goals, and that is the fact that had Stevie Me 'playing' defensive midfield. Was a cracking player, legs have gone, cant get around the pitch and doesn't have the vast array of passing or intelligence that Pirlo does. Good ****ing riddance, no time for Johnson to follow him.

Fixed. Well that is complete bullshit, with a £14m transfer offer and going from a squad member to the big man, will undoubtedly come a fat wage rise and a fat signing on fee.

Caulker has gone for the best part of £18m in the past year too ffs:D

What if he stays, doesn't sign a new contract, and next summer we're planning for a season without him, but also without the extra money for a replacement? Would we then think that we should have cashed in while his stock was high (World Cup)? We would have an extra years PL money (IMO) and Okore would have gained some experience. I just think where we are now, coming off two relegation fights and Okore not having much PL games under his belt it is too big of a risk.

Can I ask what player you would sign to replace Vlaar as a defender and a leader that would come here right now?

I would rather lose him on a free than cash in now. Our PL survival rests on him, that is how important he is.

The second point you make here is actually valid & on point. Myself am a competing powerlifter & I spend an awful lot of time on mobility work, movement patterns ect. I see some of these players as an eg almost laying flat when they drive, how on earth is that supporting the spine,hips ect Arsenal recently had Kelly Starrett over from USA working with coaches & players on movement patterns, corrective work & the like. If you cannot even walk correctly how can you do support the system in sporting situations. You can be totally unlucky & just have a randomly injury but the body will only go through so many cycles in a compromised position. Maybe a weeks, months, years but eventually the body will break down. I'll use the heel cord as an eg as recently I help a local footballer. He tore his heel core, I mean to do that is unreal. An example being they're strong enough to hang a small car from. On watching this guy even walk it was wrong. Apologise for the long post, this is a topic close to my heart. Good post. You see so many footballers with bad movement mechanics. The amount that run and jump duck footed is ridiculous.