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24 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said:

Funnily enough I practice what I preach and don't dismiss anyine who has a different view or is worried. I am am a teacher and reguarly go in to care for children of keyworkers if this means ines who are vulnerable or simply worried about it all don't have to. I'm not going around licking door handles but I happily 'put myself on the line' because I think the risk to me/my family is tiny compared to the help I give those children.

Fair play by to you; it’s very commendable indeed. Not everyone does, or would, though. 

I saw a Tweet that said something along the lines of we should allow those out first who think the lockdown is having a negative effect or is not worthwhile (because the economy/people would have died anyway/the virus isn’t that bad/we need herd immunity). Let them be the first to be released so they can show everyone how sure they are about their beliefs. 

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Perhaps it is time here for a tale of the tape. Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud

Worth a read. 

44 minutes ago, Genie said:

The questions make my blood boil.

LK: When can restrictions be lifted, 3 weeks or 3 months?

DR: Well we don’t know, it’s dangerous to predict how it will go. We can’t say yet.

LK: But why won’t you tell people when restrictions will be lifted?

**** OFF

Bloody Lorraine Kelly should just stick to daytime chat show hosting, stop asking dumb **** questions, and leave the hard hitting questions to proper journalists such as Laura Kuensb....oh, wait! 

17 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

I agree. Until the risk of infection becomes negligible, I'd be nowhere near any form of public transport, you can't keep 2m from someone on a plane.

EasyJet have got this really well conceived idea that if the middle seat is left empty then that should be fine. Erm, nah, you’re alright, thanks.

30 minutes ago, Troglodyte said:

Absolute bollocks of the highest order

**** me! She trying to lie with the evidence that she’s lying in front of her face. 

13 minutes ago, Xann said:

https://planefinder.net

Look at Europe.

Scroll across to the US.

Wow! Just...wow

17 minutes ago, snowychap said:

 

Might be of particular interest to @Stevo985.

“Speak to that department it’s not our responsibility”

“No sorry, not us either, you’ll need to speak to this department”

“Sorry, we don’t do this here. Can you speak to this department?”

“You again!? What did we tell you the first time” 

What a bunch of words removed.

“Don’t worry, you can trust about things. We’re very trustworthy as our past record about things suggest” 

“What? We’ve lied about stuff in the past. Nah, never. And this? Well don’t worry, it’s fine. You can trust us”

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Technology firms are processing large volumes of confidential UK patient information in a data-mining operation that is part of the government’s response to the coronavirus outbreak, according to documents seen by the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/12/uk-government-using-confidential-patient-data-in-coronavirus-response

13 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

There are experts on the Video I posted earlier, not just some random reporter. An to br fair experts get it wrong too, as in our chief medical officers and scientists.

I'm not saying I believe it's man made, but I also have reserves on how it cant be, it's just too effective.

It is also gonna be widely publicised soon, that it may not have actually originated from the Wuhan market, but if you want to believe the Chinese communist goverment you go ahead.

Perhaps Bill Gates created it given he warned an effective virus could strike at anytime over five years ago!? The WHO have known for years that a disease X would cause a global pandemic and this could be it.

Here’s a starting point: watch “Pandemic” on Netflix and you’ll find out how it can be so effective and definitely not man made. 

1 hour ago, sne said:

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211887/Coronavirus-spread-twice-fast-previously-thought.html

Not the best source perhaps but still

Don’t worry, it’s from a legit study 

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article

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Assuming a serial interval of 6–9 days, we calculated a median R0 value of 5.7 (95% CI 3.8–8.9). We further show that active surveillance, contact tracing, quarantine, and early strong social distancing efforts are needed to stop transmission of the virus.

When it’s that high, I just can’t see how there won’t be more lockdowns/waves of infection given there’s no vaccine or feasible therapy. 

55 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said:

Buzzfeed turning out some top content lately, fair play.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/coronavirus-timeline-uk-germany-comparison-johnson-merkel

 

Hmm, whilst there’s nothing wrong with that article, I think comparing one country’s approach to the biggest shit show of a circus in Europe doesn’t achieve a great deal.

Germany has done much better than our “I’ll continue to shake hands” buffoon, but, well, so has every country in Europe, it seems, but even one of Germany’s own top epidemiologists thinks more could have been done even in his country. 

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Already by the end of January, a group of experts to which I belong, had demanded decisive travel controls at the airports, country-wide surveillance and school closures. 

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To be frank: I was shocked by how health authorities played down the severity of this situation for too long, and I do not exclude Germany here. 

https://sciencemediahub.eu/2020/03/25/prof-alexander-kekule-the-eu-needs-a-trustworthy-appointee-for-pandemics-and-an-epidemiological-expert-council/

40 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said:

As stated previously, no Government who watched it go to shit as rapidly as it did in France and Spain, and still let huge events (Cheltenham is the example here) go ahead can be congratulated for handling it well.

Boris wanted his jolly up at the rugby and that’s why Cheltenham was allowed to go ahead. He couldn’t cancel one and not the other. We’ve got a total “I’m alright Jack” (although he wasn’t in the end, silly word removed) crayon chomper for a PM. 

56 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

Some countries are using a lockdown to get the numbers back down to a level where ‘track and trace’ becomes a viable option again, rather than just slowing the curve on the way to a herd immunity. 

The UK could still have something like this in mind. 

Yeah. Surely they can forget herd immunity as viable now if the R0 of this is as high as the new research suggests You’d need over 80% of the population to become infected to achieve herd immunity when the R0 is so high. 

Old Uncle Bill called it five years ago! 

There could be a lesson in all this for the future: don’t be so shit that you’re ever in the bottom three because if the season were to suddenly end because of a global pandemic, you’ll be relegated.

If we hadn’t been so shit for almost three quarters of the season then we wouldn’t find ourselves in this position, but as it happens, here we are.

If we get relegated then so be it. 

I’m watching Pandemic on Netflix. I wonder how many people are aware that in 2019, the Trump administration announced a 20% cut to the CDC’s budget. You couldn’t make the timing up!! 
(It’s really worth Googling the CDC if you don’t know what it is)

4 hours ago, Seat68 said:

I am not their target audience so didnt realise that they were now moving away from bantz lol. Genuinely I dont view their stuff. 

Yeah they moved away from the laddish “bantaaa” ages ago when they got a new female CEO or head of content (someone senior anyway). Tit Tuesday and the rest of that sort of stuff is long gone. 
They get pelters for some of the content regularly in the comments (the old skool followers don’t think it’s laddish enough anymore), but even though they’ve tried to move away from their original intended audience, they still have over >2M followers (edit: >2m on Twitter and apparently over 35M on Facebook!!!) 

I assume they’re given credibility and allowed to attend these conferences due to the overall reach they have. 

15 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

The average number of people that one infected person infects.

EDIT: Should probably add to this, that therefore if the R0 = 1, then the disease will be stable, ie it will not disappear but it will not break out. If it is below 1, the disease will gradually die out. If it is more than 1, it will spread unless measures are taken to contain it.

5.7 is quite high for an R0, but not unbelievably so (measles, for instance, has an r0 of 18).

I suppose it’s the fact it has no vaccination or feasible course of therapy that’s makes 5.7 feel somewhat unsettling. 

Whilst you’re correct about the R0 of Measles, it has a higher R0 but a lower mortality rate and there’s a vaccination for it. 

According to that tweet by Dan Rosenheck, the R0 of this could be as high as 5.7  

Indeed. I’d have thought we’d have enough by now/at this stage, but maybe that was an unrealistic expectation. 

1 hour ago, villa4europe said:

The legal challenge wording would depend on the wording of the membership / contract whatever it is we have with the PL, it would have to be a contract breach

If for example it says "if at the end of the season your club is in the relegation zone then you will relegated to the EFL" 

At the front of the contract there will be a definition of the terms relegation zone, relegated, EFL and most importantly a definition of the word season, of that definition is 38 games play other twice then relegation after 29 games would be a breach of contract 

Its not talked about but I'm surprised there isn't a clause for suspension and termination, not necessarily for deadly viruses but for war, you would then apply the theory of that clause to this scenario

Not sure why one of the big media outlets hasn't obtained a PL contract via their magical sources and employed their own legal team to explain it

 

Well explained mate and this would all make sense. If this is the case, I can imagine there would, indeed, be an emergency suspension clause and I can’t imagine such a gaping hole would exist in such an important & high value contract. 

Aside from PPE, we don’t have enough ventilators still and we’re having to source and fly them in from wherever we can get them (random locations). What other vital kit does the NHS not have enough!? Do they have enough of anything!? 

For anyone from a legal background:

If the PL were to declare the seasons as finished and the table as final then what would our legal challenge be? On what grounds would a legal challenge be raised/would any challenge be supported by current law?

Agree again. Omnia is probably the most expensive as it’s the newest club (fun fact: they opened a massive, brand spanking new one called KAOS @ The Palms, but it only lasted six months before closing down again due to massive losses. Some LV commentators think the night life scene is changing and people don’t want those types of venues any more). 

Same...we had to Uber it every time to the strip; it’s just a massive ball ache! (Did I mention, you should stay on the strip!?) 

Yep - expect queues at Egg Slut but it’s relatively cheap and worth it at least once.