CI Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Wasn't our lowest gate about 12k v Southampton in the 80s ? I remember being stood on the holte and it was incredibly sparse I think if we were a top 4 side playing good football and winning stuff, ground permitting we'd get about 55k per week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Lerwill Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 As I've said, CI, you can't get 55k when planning permission only allows 50k. Sorry. And at the moment the max is about 42k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 So the council have said 50k limit? Or is that guess work Current capacity is 42,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm not saying that we aren't a big club with the potential to average 40k+ again, just that we never have been a '60k to 70k every game' club. You're right with your stats, Brommy. I've corrected my previous post on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Lerwill Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 So the council have said 50k limit? Or is that guess work Current capacity is 42,500 I've seen it stated on several occasions that planning permission was given to provide a 50k total capacity. I've not seen the actual documents, but if anyonne has I'd be interested to hear if they allow for any variation. From the press reports I've read it's 50k max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 John, have we submitted planning to replace the north stand? And will the new look ground be 50k capacity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Lerwill Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm not 100% certain about the North Stand approval, but a dim memory says that permission is there. Don't take that as gospel, though. Whatever actual modifications are done a.f.a.i.k. the max capacity is still 50k seated (according to what I recall). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm interested in the north stand redevelopment and if it goes ahead or not because this will give a real indication as to Lerners plans and longevity as owner of the villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm interested in the north stand redevelopment and if it goes ahead or not because this will give a real indication as to Lerners plans and longevity as owner of the villa It could just as easily be indicative as to how long the UK ecomony remains flat or in recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 True, but you could equally argue it's a great time to build as construction prices are about 20% down on 3 or 4 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Lerwill Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm interested in the north stand redevelopment and if it goes ahead or not because this will give a real indication as to Lerners plans and longevity as owner of the villa I've had it put to me offline that the North Stand plans have not been submitted as yet. This comes as a bit of a surprise to me as there was quite a bit of activity on this when I was there in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 True, but you could equally argue it's a great time to build as construction prices are about 20% down on 3 or 4 years ago I don't know if that is true, or whether it would also apply to the specialist construction of football stadia, however even if Randy fancied staying here for the long term, given our 30k average history, it would be a big gamble to expand to 50k at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 It is true, prices have fallen at least 20% Structural steel- a big component in a new stand has halved in price from about 3 Years back, labour rates are down and groundworkers are fighting for work The arse has fallen out if the industry particularly outside of London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I take your word CI, but still stand by my previous statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Well, if Lerner has ditched the plan to rebuild the North Stand that is a massive statement IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Well, if Lerner has ditched the plan to rebuild the North Stand that is a massive statement IMO It could just as easily be indicative as to how long the UK ecomony remains flat or in recession. ...and the circle is complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Brommy, I see what you're saying but premier league football does not follow the way the world financial meltdown is unravelling It has it's own climate, and it is generating more cash than ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Lerwill Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 ... for the time being. The fans - the customers - may dictate otherwise and, in any case, even football is not immune to what is happening in the global economy. Just wait ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Brommy, I see what you're saying but premier league football does not follow the way the world financial meltdown is unravelling It has it's own climate, and it is generating more cash than ever Now I'm definitely not sure of that! I know a few fans who are now financially restricted to an extent that watching football is a luxury that they have stopped or reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Don't necessarily agree, think the full riches of world tv rights are yet to be realised, then there's all the other diversification such as the "39 th game" etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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