Mantis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 It means that you make rash predictions based on nothing more than gut feeling and optimism. Nothing rubbish about that observation. No it doesn't. Just because I got a prediction wrong doesn't mean it was based on "gut feeling and optimism". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 We are on target for 38 points for the season but have the worst goal difference in the league. From today's performance it seems the mythical second half of the season charge up the league is as far away as ever. We really are in the mix for the religation places and it's going to be touch and go. If Lamberts youth team gamble doesn't come off it could be the year we finally fall through the trap door. You could be right but how can you be so sure that it is Lamberts youth team gamble? He may have been taken down this route by someone higher in the club who knows **** all about owning a football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 No it doesn't. Just because I got a prediction wrong doesn't mean it was based on "gut feeling and optimism". So what was this amazing prediction based on then? Did you look at our wonderful squad of top quality players or was it Lambert's managerial qualities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 So what was this amazing prediction based on then? Did you look at our wonderful squad of top quality players or was it Lambert's managerial qualities? Lambert's managerial qualities, who by the way I still rate, and we could yet finish closer to 6th than 18th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Lambert's managerial qualities, who by the way I still rate, and we could yet finish closer to 6th than 18th. Now you're having an unrealistic moment again. Have some mince pies and a glass of sherry and get ready for Santa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Now you're having an unrealistic moment again. Have some mince pies and a glass of sherry and get ready for Santa. Yeah sorry for not being a pessimistic doom-monger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Yeah sorry for not being a pessimistic doom-monger. LOL. Sorry if I have given you the impression that I am a 'pessimistic doom-monger'. I am quite a positive person really. However, I do tend to look at facts and evidence as my basis for looking at potential for the immediate future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 LOL. Sorry if I have given you the impression that I am a 'pessimistic doom-monger'. I am quite a positive person really. However, I do tend to look at facts and evidence as my basis for looking at potential for the immediate future. So then how come you scorned at my statement that QPR and Reading don't have much chance of catching us? Facts and statistics suggest they have little chance of catching us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 So then how come you scorned at my statement that QPR and Reading don't have much chance of catching us? Facts and statistics suggest they have little chance of catching us. Actually I stated facts and evidence (no mention of statistics) and I believe teams have, in the past (at both ends of the league) managed to close an 8/9 point gap with much less than half the season left to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Actually I stated facts and evidence (no mention of statistics) and I believe teams have, in the past (at both ends of the league) managed to close an 8/9 point gap with much less than half the season left to play. But "facts and evidence" would suggest that is not likely, hence "not much chance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 play how we did today v CHELSEA we will be going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 But "facts and evidence" would suggest that is not likely, hence "not much chance". Getting away from facts and evidence for a moment, at this moment in time (before any January transfer activity has taken place) I personally believe that we will finish closer to the relegation zone than the top 6. That's as optimistic as you are going to get from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Mantis Reading should have won at City and QPR have a strong squad and more money to spend in Jan. To say there is little chance of catching us up is crazy IMO. There are around 6 teams that could be relegated and we are well and truly in that mix. By all means keep positive and feel we will stay up. But also be prepared for the worse because this is our worst start to a season in a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaN.I Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Our goal difference is now the worst in the league. Worth an extra point after the 38games are played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Things can change quickly and I'm sure we'll be ok but the worrying for me is all the new records we are setting. worst start to a premier league season, worst ever defeat. I just hope the third isn't first ever relegation from the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Awful performance - We need to address it against Spurs Benteke's attitude was a cause for concern for me - he was offside too much but seemed to want to blame his teammates I thought Weimann never gave up and came out with a little credit but the midfeild had a terrible day at the office A point from Spurs and 3 from Wigan are required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I hate to break the news to you but 3 teams get relegated! The bookies think that at least four teams are more likely to go down than we are - but unlike some they don't base their opinions on a single game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Things can change quickly and I'm sure we'll be ok but the worrying for me is all the new records we are setting. worst start to a premier league season, worst ever defeat. I just hope the third isn't first ever relegation from the premier league. Yes indeedy. There is just a funny feeling about this season, as if this is the year we finally get the chop. Everything seems to be falling into place; extremely poor start, lack of consistency, youth team players expected to play the role of experienced pros and being shown up time after time, lack of balance not being addressed, poor tactics in games like this, numerous humiliating defeats and by and large a fanbase that seems to accept the fact we are in a relegation scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Would've thought if things were falling into place we'd be in the bottom 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Erm, guys.... Did we actually lose 8-0 earlier? As in, 2 goals less than 10? It doesnt seem real somehow. That really is shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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