Stevo985 Posted July 16, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 16, 2012 DOn't think I'd be able to commit weekly. But the occasional poker tournament I'd definitely be interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifa09don Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 which sites have people found to be the best and worst for online poker? ive been playing on sky and im not going to lie ive been on the end of and dished out a lot of terrible bad beats. id almost go as far to say that the underdog wins the majority of the time, and im not the only one to feel like this, aparently there are alot of sky haters. anyone know why this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I'd quite like to get to the level where i would be able to make a decent sum of money, not necessarily play full-time but just to get a few more quid. I haven't heard that, but i had heard another one to read was Super/System by Doyle Brunson. I played tonight, bought in to a tournament (only £2.30) and promptly had a blazing row with the missus with her going on at me whilst trying to play. Made a bit and then lost it all pretty sharpish, and went all-in on top pair without thinking about it and is something i wouldn't have done so early on, especially as he went all in on the river as a second six came out. She is definitely getting the blame for that one. Super/System is great too, there's a Super/System 2 as well, but I don't really rate it as highly as the first one, it's too dripping with ego stroking. Don't play unless you know you're going to have long enough with no distractions to stay focussed, you need to be able to maintain a clear head to make the right decisions. Speaking of which, avoid playing when drunk, I dunno if I still have it but I had a winnings graph of one of my months playing where I was going out every friday night, coming back and playing poker, the graph had a nice slope upwards during the week, then a massive drop every friday where I pissed away more the weeks winnings in drunken sessions. It didn't take me too long to work out not to play when pissed! I decided that online sites were too dodgy, and casinos are swarming with sharks who will work tables. Online sites are not dodgy. They don't care who wins or loses hands, they make their money from the rake regardless, it's simply not in their interest to rig hands. I've got hand histories of millions of hands, and they show that they're not dodgy, everything happens around the amount of times you'd expect them to. People think they see bad beats more frequently online, but that's not true. You see more of them sure, but you see more hands online too. Live you're limited to around 30 hands per hour, online? well, single table you could push 90, multi tabling, a multiple of that. I'd easily push 600 hands an hour back in my grinding days, that's 20x as many hands as playing live, of course you're going to see more bad beats, but do they happen more frequently? No. There are exceptions of course, there have been staff members using their positions to cheat (the absolute poker scandal being the main one) but they get found VERY quickly, because people who play this game for a living are also obsessed with stats and how people play, and it's pretty obvious to notice someone who is cheating if you know what to look for. Then of course there's full tilt, which apparently was just a huge ponzi scheme with the company paying itself out of players money rather than having a seperation of funds like they should have, so they were spending the money that players had in their accounts. But that's another thing entirely. As for casinos swarming with sharks, most casino sharks fall into two categories, 1) people with actually know how to play poker 2) rich people who try to bully hands There's always enough fish, and enough of number 2 (who are the exact people you want at a table) in a live game to make money, and number 1 aren't that abundant so you can avoid playing hands with them if they are actually that good. But the secret is they generally aren't, because you don't have to be to play live poker. Most live players are far worse than online. There's very few live games I wouldn't walk into and be profitable at, it's only when you get into the stupidly high stakes you start getting tables full of pros, because honestly, most live casino games just aren't profitable enough for people who can actually play poker to bother with most the time. Why would you want to play 30 hands an hour live, when you can do 600 online? Full Tilt is what I played so maybe my perception is tainted...nonetheless, online poker is a money vacuum unless you are very strict with yourself. The casino where I'd play had enough "teams" at the lower stakes tables that I just played tournaments to make sure everything was above board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 4, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2013 So nothing ever came of the VT Poker tournament discussions? I'd still be very interested in playing some if other people were? Getting back into Poker a lot recently. had a few games before xmas and got a big one (for me) next week. Oh and going back to the advice The Don was giving previously in this topic: goldmine. I went back and had a proper look at Super/System, studied it a bit more and I've won 3 of the last 4 games I've played. Still only play with mates so that's no big claim, but considering I'd probably won 3 in the previous 4 years it shows I've changed something for the better! My friends and I have vowed to make it a monthly game now so wouldn't mind getting a nice poker discussion going on here with some more tips And let's get that VT game set up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2013 Worth adding that I'd be happy to organise the VT Poker game if enough people were interested. Would want some suggestions as to which site to use though as I've never used an online site for a social tournament like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadenb42 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I've got back into poker after 3 years off. Use to be a mistake SnG grinder with a pretty decent ROI, then along came my kid and my free time vanished. I'm grinding micro sngs at 888 atm to get me back into the swing of things doing well although yesterday took a big downswing just bad beat after bad beat o well. On books I've only ever read Harrington on hold em and Collin Moshman sng book. Both good, I think super system is a bit outdated now you probably better reading the 2+2 forums where there is a lot more information to improve your game. as for poker league I would suggest maybe poker stars they have the home game option on there too. I'd deffo play in a VT league anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 6, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2013 I'd imagine Super/System is outdated, but for the casual player I reckon it's a pretty good place to start. If you're playing against nothing more than "decent" poker players, which is probably a lot of us if we play with friends, they aren't going to be good enough to counter Super/System. Imo of course, I'm no expert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 6, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2013 Also, Poker Stars, noted. I might start a topic in Off Topic (with the permission of the MODs) to see if anyone who might not usually read this forum is interested. If there's enough interest I'll set up a game and see if we can develop it into a league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Yeah I would be up for that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadenb42 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Oh yeah super system would help in that way. I was just assuming average online player. Misunderstanding there. I'll look at 888 later when I get home about private games. They also giving new customers £12 no deposit which would help get a few more players involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 6, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2013 Thanks buddy. I've set up a thread in off topic so if you find anything on 888 let us know in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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