Denis_B Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 And Villa fanzine Villa Matters What magazine? And fanzine editor Trevor Fisher Who? It seems the Mail group is now scraping the barrel to find someone who is anti Lerner. "Mr Lerner is also reported to be hostile to fan involvement. He must clarify what his record is in the sporting arena. So Jon Fear and Naz are lying then? He didn't speak to them? As for the bollocks about Casinos etc the man must be blind stupid or just stirring it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villafan306 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 But before this 10 day preiod expires the bid must be evaluated and recommended to the board and then recommended to the shareholders. That is why Rothchilds have probably put a deadline fo today because they need to look at the bid in detail and call a board meeting before Wednesday if it beats Lerners. Yeah if the Sun is right (and we have no reason not to doubt this atm) then it could very well be there is a self imposed timescale on this from Rothschilds. I am not too sure how that might hold up to a legal challenge though if someone wanted to if the LSE rules specify a 10 period? Unless in there is another clause that allows you to place your own deadline for bids for consideration? Perhaps they is someone here qualified enough who could clarify that please? If I am right though the 10 days is for another bid to be suggested to the shareholders. In which case the bid would need to be in earlier so it can be assessed by Rothchilds and then the board if needed. As Rothchilds don't work weekends I would have thought tomorrow is the lasy day that it would be realistic for a bid to have sufficient time to be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The article that Jez has just posted has successfully annoyed the hell out of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The article that Jez has just posted has successfully annoyed the hell out of me Don't know why it's uninformed bollocks really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runetune Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The article that Jez has just posted has successfully annoyed the hell out of me Sorry - but I did laugh out loud reading this...... So thanks for making me feel better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 "It is proposed that a US General with Vietnam experience will be appointed chair along with other Americans. "What links and commit-ment to the club will there be? What is the link between fighting the Vietcong and running an English football club? And what links were there between Doug's travel agent business and running a football club? "Doug Ellis was both a Villa fan and a man with great experience in English football. The proposed bid seems to lack both. Oh dear. Villa fan? A director at small heath and wolves? Gre wup in Chester supporting Everton? Great experience in English football? Is that why we have been in terminal decline for the past 25 years? Someone shut this tw*t up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The ownership battle will decide Villa's fate for years to come," said Fisher. "It is not obvious that the first bid must be accepted, and there is no need to close the options down. Wasnt that the hole reason why Rothchilds were employed ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbuchanan Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The article that Jez has just posted has successfully annoyed the hell out of me Yeah I just read that and felt exactly the same. :evil: How someone can get away with spouting so many lies in the space of a single article is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaztonVilla Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Can I suggest the fansite editor John Cresswell makes a few phone calls to refute these LUDICROUS claims from Trevor "Like to see my name in print" Fisher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bully Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Birmingham Post and Mail group=complete and utter wank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsby Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 As I walked in to work today I saw a B'ham post advert saying 'fans backlash against Lerner' I ignored it as it couldn't be true! .......Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Should that read 'A fans'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Sorry - but I did laugh out loud reading this...... So thanks for making me feel better now. Yeah but non Villa talkers read this and for some reason believe it, WE know the truth and WE know the facts but there's a hell of alot of people that dont , THATS what worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villafan306 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I'm sure more people will read the positives in the Sun than will read this piece of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond_Joe_Quimby Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Who the feck are Villa Matters? Honestly i know 100% support is pushing it but is the Post & Mail going out of its way to find disquiet, ive never heard of Villa Matters and surely the majority view would be held by sites such as this, H & V, Holteenders and main fanzine H & V as well as Jon Fears organisation who are wholly positive in there support. One has to ask if the Post and Mail have taken a decision or being influenced by a someone to smear our american friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenjos Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Villa fans' disquiet on Lerner plan Aug 17 2006 By Ged Scott One worried section of Aston Villa fans are still far from sold on the idea of American Randy Lerner as the new owner of their club. All Villa chairman Doug Ellis has done by accepting Lerner's £62.6 million offer on Monday is effectively seal his own exit by starting the ball rolling in a bidding war by recommending it to the club's shareholders. But, with the rival consortia led by local businessman Michael Neville and deputy high court judge Nicholas Padfield QC each understood to be intending to top Lerner's offer, there are still clearly battles to be fought in a campaign that is not yet over. And Villa fanzine Villa Matters is urging caution over the American bid, demanding Ellis to scrutinise all the bids being tabled and not make a hasty decision. This is the first time in more than a generation that the chance to take control at Villa has become open to offers. And fanzine editor Trevor Fisher argues that, if it gets into the wrong hands, the consequences could be disastrous. "The ownership battle will decide Villa's fate for years to come," said Fisher. "It is not obvious that the first bid must be accepted, and there is no need to close the options down. "The principle 'marry in haste, repent at leisure' applies to the current situation. The Lerner bid is not the only one, and there are good reasons to think it may not be in the interests of the club. "Most fans seem to think it is automatic that the bid will lead to more money and better leadership at the club. It is not automatic that this will happen. "Randy Lerner may not be a Roman Abramovich. It is possible that, like the Glazers at Manchester United, finance may not be as readily forthcoming as fans think. "The rumours that the American bid is fuelled by the intention to build a casino, or install gambling facilities short of a full casino facility are worrying. Villa are a family club. Is the link with gambling desirable? Would the cash go into the club, or back to America? Mr Lerner needs to make his intentions clear. "It is proposed that a US General with Vietnam experience will be appointed chair along with other Americans. "What links and commit-ment to the club will there be? What is the link between fighting the Vietcong and running an English football club? "Doug Ellis was both a Villa fan and a man with great experience in English football. The proposed bid seems to lack both. "Mr Lerner is clearly good at making money. But is he good at sporting institutions? "In the last seven years, the Cleveland Browns have not been massively successful. "They have not come top in either of the leagues they have played in and, in 1999 and 2000, came sixth out of six. "Mr Lerner is also reported to be hostile to fan involvement. He must clarify what his record is in the sporting arena. "The club needs an owner-ship set up which is clearly committed to football priorities in general and Aston Villa in particular. The owners need expertise in English football and top class sport, and have no intention of using the club as a cash cow." It would take another bid of five per cent above Lerner's for it to be given consideration. And, already, there has been a r esponse, with Padfield believed to be close to putting together a £70 million package [2014] £7.4 million more than offered by American billionaire Lerner and accepted by the Villa board. Padfield said: "This is by no means over. We are indefatigable in our efforts to secure the club because we have the club's interests at heart." "We are not American, and want to fly the flag." Although he has so far refused to name the people behind his consortium, he added: "While I'm not prepared to go into details, certainly we have billionaires." Clicky What a load of garbage, they obviously haven't a clue. I can't wait for this to be FINALLY over! who the f*ck are villa matters and why does someone who writes a fanzine not seen all the rebuttals that Randys people have said to these rumours! What a load of pure garbage. The bid is perfect in all senses as far as i can see. Whoever keeps this "caution cuz they will kill us" balls up, is a d*ck. "Mr Lerner is also reported to be hostile to fan involvement. He must clarify what his record is in the sporting arena. If the Mail did there job they would of highlighted VFC's contact with Lerner here. D*cks "Doug Ellis was both a Villa fan and a man with great experience in English football. The proposed bid seems to lack both. He also strangled this club for the last 20 years, you idiots. Creating a club that is actually in debt at the moment! "Randy Lerner may not be a Roman Abramovich. It is possible that, like the Glazers at Manchester United, finance may not be as readily forthcoming as fans think. HES BUYING US IN CASH YOU MORONS! This man spent 12mill just to pay off a coach at his current NFL unit!!!! HES LOADED. Some fans get the club they deserve :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 You read the article and the twirp spouting his mouth off seems to think we've just jumped at the first bid , god if only he knew This is the kind bullshit that makes you want to physically hit people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runetune Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Sorry - but I did laugh out loud reading this...... So thanks for making me feel better now. Yeah but non Villa talkers read this and for some reason believe it, WE know the truth and WE know the facts but there's a hell of alot of people that dont , THATS what worries Oh I know - Thats why I put sorry in front....... Its just the way it initially read - but I totally agree that fans will be reading this and thinking it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenjos Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Who do i email about this article?? is it steve dyson again?? im f*cked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond_Joe_Quimby Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 That article has really annoyed me, in fact im tempted to role off an email to the post about producing a large article about disquiet amonsgt fans when it appears to be one bloke with a view, a laptop and a printer. Anyone got an email address for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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