chrissmith921 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 are you being awkward ? I am comparing New York to other US states, you would imagine in New York being a city actually some problems there are actually worse yet their levels of murders are way lower than New Orleans _ Lousiana which I think has the death penalty surely you must accept comparsions between US states are valid therefore if there is no deterrent effect shown then simply it does not work ? you have no evidence at ALL none, to prove captial punishment works as a deterrent Japan are below us in the rankings for murder. They are pretty much similar to us in terms of rich/poor divide, weapon ownership etc. Yet they have capital punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Japan are below us in the rankings for murder. They are pretty much similar to us in terms of rich/poor divide, weapon ownership etc. Yet they have capital punishment. 1 If you think (rightly IMO) poverty has a direct effect on crime, then why not tackle that? and 2, here are some better stats.... Clicky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa_Rosa Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Japan are below us in the rankings for murder. They are pretty much similar to us in terms of rich/poor divide, weapon ownership etc. Yet they have capital punishment. 1 If you think (rightly IMO) poverty has a direct effect on crime, then why not tackle that? and 2, here are some better stats.... Clicky Blimey. If that's not evidence that the Death Penalty is not a deterrant, then I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissmith921 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Cant view that in work.... Dunno why. Yes you can correct it by correcting poverty, but if it takes a carrot AND stick approach, then thats what should be used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_2004 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Japan are below us in the rankings for murder. They are pretty much similar to us in terms of rich/poor divide, weapon ownership etc. Yet they have capital punishment. 1 If you think (rightly IMO) poverty has a direct effect on crime, then why not tackle that? and 2, here are some better stats.... Clicky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 yes, definitely. 5-10 years on Death Row (to give them a chance to think about what they've done). painful death or humane death - depends on the crime. Id vote for that. Im hugely surprised that there are so many liberal minded posters on VT. I have obviously spent too much time in the political threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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