Nicho

I actually thought ACL at the time. I’ve seen people do it by impacts, twists and turns, that would have been diagnosed by now and we do announce them quickly.

However I do think he’ll be out for 2/3 months whatever it is, just a feeling and our luck. 

I’m fine with him being here but £20 mil will be spent better elsewhere 

Expected a loss no matter the performance. We were the better team and desrerved the win, loss all the same. 

Missed our chances defended poorly when it mattered. 

14 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

He looked well off the pace when came on today. Probably expected considering he hasn’t played many minutes lately. 

I dont think he did he just looked the full Pep version, zippy passes, turn back, keep the ball. Hes an absolute shadow of what he was at Villa. 

Whether the injury has done him he’s not the player we need him to be based on the performances this season not just the game. 

Probably his poorest performance for us

My only hope is that it spurs us on to hammer United. 

We let Chelsea win is the best I can say, they are clearly rubbish. 

Luckily for him he will get the best care possible unlike many others 

5 minutes ago, Dodgyknees said:

This is the sort of game we let in a goal on the 8th minute and then fail to break the team down.

Yeah I I have a bad feeling 

1 hour ago, DJBOB said:

Rank the 6 on most likely to be sold this summer:

Duran, Bailey, Luiz, Kamara, Cash, JJ

Other than the deadwood I think it will be Luiz. He can command the highest price, I’d rather sell 1 than 2 and I don’t think Kamara is rated as he should be yet. 

I think he’s trying to play Diaby into form, unfortunately that’s at the detriment of an on fire Bailey 

If anything the BBC has given unfair exposure to the Tories and Brexit. 

It’s absolutely crazy to me that they’ve managed to con some of the public that factual reporting of their actions is biased against them.

3 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

That's the thing, he's not a player Brighton can just flip in 18 months unless he goes mad and scores 10-15 next season. No one above Brighton's level is paying 40-50m for someone who'll be 27-28 so I'm curious why they've gone for him when they're pretty well stocked in midfield and over time he'll lose value playing for them.

Can only think they have homegrown player issues coming up.

Of the two I'd be after James more, not even 20 yet yet he's starting most games for Wales now and has 80 games for SHA already so you're talking a player with vast potential if perhaps not the next Bellingham.

6 goals from central midfield aswell so he's only scored three less than KDH in a far far worse team.

He's someone I thought Brighton would be all over.

Disagree, in order for their process to work they do need some experienced pros around, that’s why Lallana, Welbeck and Milner were brought in. Dunk, Webster and Gross are all older pros always in the team aswell. Estupinan is 27. 

I expect them to win everything now 

6 minutes ago, useless said:

Palace have had an £18.5m bid turned down for Wharton, Blackburn would probably want around £25m for him, a similar fee to what Bristol City got for Alex Scott

Yep I think £20 mil plus is the going rate for the top youngsters in the championship. Too many have proven to be capable of playing in the top half of the prem so it’s become justified.

Rodger’s is exactly the type of signing I wanted at the start of the window. The actual ones were Rowe and Wharton, I now hope we sign all 3. Would be about £40 mil though. 

1 hour ago, lexicon said:

I initially skimmed that and saw 'Epstein' instead for a nano-second 

Cash does have a little bit of an island starting to show 

How much can we realistically get for him? We’d want £30 mil based on potential I assume, don’t think anyone is paying that 

I have a feeling this will be done by Thursday 

He seemed to have all the attributes to do well, he’s also the kind of signing we’re asking for now when looking from afar. 

Unfortunately hasn’t worked out, could be the system, managers, attitude, doesn’t suit the league or we just got it wrong. 

16 hours ago, Callum said:

he could always fall back on his work rate and work off the ball under Smith, Gerrard. But he doesn’t need to do nearly as much of that under Unai, so when he doesn’t score he hasn’t anything to fall back on. Don’t think he was too bad tbh. 

I thought he had a good game, the work rate was still there and he was good in his involvements. Not his fault we created very little for him. 

He did well to get that save from Pickford, if he’s taking that first time instead and putting it bottom corner he probably wouldn’t be playing for us. 

They looked knackered after about 65, Howe is in trouble

1 minute ago, VillaJ100 said:

Let's hope they're shit from the 2023's onwards

Nothing to suggest they wont be competing financially. They have financial might through history and now the stadium and Levy is a very good chairman. I argue with a spurs mate that with a much smaller budget they were massively punching above their weight and they’ve turned that into money. Had to tighten while they built the stadium.

They are spending big recently on young good players which is what made Spurs successful in the first place. Van De Ven, Ragusin, Udogie, Johnson, Kulsevski, Porro. Adding in some “older” good players Bentancur, Maddison, Vicario. Let’s just hope for some more trash like Richarlison. 

Spurs for me are the blueprint for how to grow in this league.

42 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said:

How did Spurs become this financial powerhouse? 15 years ago we were a shade ahead of them and probably having a higher income? I guess they had some good players like Bale, Modric etc but they still won F all, and still have won F all. They finished in Europe for a few years in a row but how does that make them similar to say Chelsea?

Spurs have bought and sold incredibly well since levy came in, they’ve also finished in Europe for something like 80% of his time there and the champions league like 60% of the time. Striking at the golden time of commercial growth for the premier league. Being decent in the 90s compared to the 2000s 2010s is completely different financially. 

13 hours ago, HeyAnty said:

My point is that it protects the established big 6.  Its not a level playing field, how can you increase revenue and become one of them if u cant spend initially?  It’s nearly impossible.  No one wants runaway teams, but thats what we have had with city for past 10 years. Same with utd 20 years before and pool 20 before that

I mentioned this in the on topic villa thread, it’s does protect the top teams but not by design just a happy bi product for them, it stops teams running themselves into the ground chasing teams who are financially better than them. That’s a good thing to stop owners running teams out of existence. 

Like it or not football teams are businesses and they can’t over exert themselves financially or they go bankrupt. Being a business however you could argue the owners should run it how they like and if the business fails then so be it, that’s where football clubs being institutions and a sport muddy the water and FFP is to stop that full failure happening.

With rich owners we view FFP stopping them putting millions into transfers and stopping us competing but that would then get loaned anyway as our debt and if they leave or we get relegated we would be ****.

It’s actually about stopping Leeds, us and Portsmouth spending so much that they can’t pay their bills and go into administration if the owners can’t afford to bail them out.

City State ownership shouldn’t matter as you can’t spend more than you earn, it’s your commercial income that matters which is why City have 115 potential breaches to skew their income/spending, why Newcastle currently can’t spend and ultimately why United have been able to spend millions on absolute crap ever year.

Edit: and to add Chelsea in, they skewed the process by spreading the eroding value and cost of the player over long term contracts, this will eventually diminish the amount they can spend each season as they will have 20 players every season adding an 8th of their value to the negative column. By about 2028 it will be like signing 2 and half players every summer without having done so. 

edit: Levy has set Tottenham up with the new stadium it’s skewed their revenue in the positive massively, that’s the way to do it and to compare to Villa we need to capitalise now to get our revenue up via the champions league but not improving our stadium is short sighted but they know that, we need to get our finances up immediately and that comes through league position and other commercial stuff. 

Long sorry.