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Exactly. But where the Labour Party should be articulating that and trying to build understanding of that approach, they are falling short.

I agree, politics is now a course you take at uni, a social class, a closed club. I dont think any existing party would have the drive, knowledge or backing to do what needs to be done (im pretty sure they havent). We need a new ruling class or a different system.........or perhaps both. This can only be achieved by the people in this country, not the leaders, they have failed and have no answers im afraid, just the same old ways that got us in the mess to start with. Vive la Revolution!

Just back the player regardless of what happened......like L'Pool and Chelsea have.......He made a mistake and hes now willing to put his hands up and say he was wrong, how wrong is that? IMO it shows a touch of class about the whole situation from both Villa and Bannan.

^ Sames as ^, lets see what team he puts out against Stoke, the deisre from the players last night was plain to see and all we can really ask for given the loss of our best players. If however he goes back to trying to scrape a draw (tempting with Stoke away) then my opinion of him will drop back down to 3/10.

Our governments existing experts are mainly backing an economy built on financial institutions providing the wealth we need. IMO we need experts who back the manufacturing, construction and farming industries to increase growth.

The instability in our economy will always remain if the renewable energy crisis is not answered. Build a tidal generation scheme, drive research into generating energy from the sea, waves, tides.....The existing system of sticking wind turbines on the earths most powerful energy source (the sea) is misguided and plain wrong, IMHO.

If we can get cheap energy then manufacturing would flourish (inward investment), construct undergrounds for major citys, drive the economy from the bottom up (giving the low level workers the investment through construction job wages). Something that adds value to our country.

Throwing money into a financial pyramid scheme is not going to solve our problems for very long. Its a change of direction thats needed, A leader whos from a banking background is not going to provide the answers for us all, he will protect the system and the backers who made him "Our Leader......"

Its the amount of corners we concede thats the problem, 12 against in the second half and Arsenal scored from 1........

Overall a lot better from all concerned, real effort and desire to win. Hutton was foolish and let himself down after playing his best game for us. Bannan played well, Dunne was the best by a country mile, kept VP quiet and he (IMO) is the most deadly strike this season.....

Keep up that amount of effort and i will have no complaints.

I wonder how hard it would be to set a political party up, surely the internet would make it very easy?

Why have parties or the House of Commons at all ? It's a drain on resources and it exists to only look after the very select few. Look at the people running it now, out of the depth just does not cover it.

Just have democracy by internet voting. No different to turning up to a half falling down school on a cold Thursday night but allow everyone to vote on everything. A few restrictions would be needed on who can vote but I see no reason why not.

mmm Think it may be better for the new party to outsource the running of the country to experts who are answerable to the people who run the party. Major decisions could be voted on.

Im not sure the general public could run the country on a daily vote basis, minority interest groups could concentrate their support on certain days to push through ridculous laws or policies.

Even if a party was set up just to show how unpopular our politicians are are, it would show them all that enough is enoughm a sort of people veto

These players needed to be loaned out seasons ago (i know delph was injured). We have had seasons where they aint stood a chance of playing yet they have still sat on the bench, or in the squad.

We need CEO or a director of football who knows the game ffs, Randy learnt this lesson with the Browns.....or at least i though he did.

These small deicisions when lined up one after the other make us look like a bunch novices.

Delph needs to play at least a season to get any true guage of his ability, send him out on loan (with facility to call him back)

All of which means that while there is a path that will see us out of these financial woes I dont think that any of the current parties would be able to set us on the right course, maybe the last 20 years has shown us that there should be a much better alternative than the one we currently have.

I would say the last 40 years have been a mess tbh. Does kind of make you wonder why another party hasn't took advantage their hopless performances.

I wonder how hard it would be to set a political party up, surely the internet would make it very easy?

Investing so much in the south is killing this country and has done for years. A high profile Mayor for Birmingham would be a good step. Forget the High speed train network, let have an underground system built in Birmingham

Incidently the very fact that any rise in the sea levels would flood london is a point that is being overlooked

London flood

Good luck in getting better, you have taken the first step.

Good to see fulham starting the campaign to get out of Europe

Lets just hope SHA do the same.

We import more from Europe than we export, who has the most to lose?

If we stay outside and leave the markets unregulated then where will all the money go? I would guess to the UK. Its a risk but its one either way IMO.

For what its worth I would rather stay out of Europe and stay a democracy. To be ruled by unelected politicians is the beginning of the end.

Business rates and rent make the high street a very expensive place to sell your goods compared to the net.

The future is a niche product (how the internet boom started)

Really sad to see high streets, like Erdington, decline into the usual pound shop, gregs, witherspoons type rubbish.

Having a look around facebook and noticed that when you go to application request it shows what apps your friends are using.

http://www.facebook.com/?sk=apps

Amazing the amount of people who are in relationships yet use apps like "Are YOU Interested?" and "Zoosk"......be warned though, I can see this causing plenty of pre christmas bust ups.

tom hanks!

You heard it here first :winkold:

No 10 - villa,

the bankers boss - villa,

the future king of england - villa

the future president of the USA? - villa

me - villa

thats is all.......

It was just the perfect storm of arrogance and ego. Shame to see that most of those to blame as still so keen to blame isomeone else though, even after all this time.

I don't like looking for blame in anything really, life just happens to roll out shit sometimes but I saw it like this as well.

McClellan had to much control over his corner. The ref was weak and Benn seemed to have extraordinary endurance, he took more punishment than McClellan, IMO.

I would like to thank them both for what I reckon will go down as one of the most brutal fights I have ever seen (that and Eubank v Watson).

He was always gonna be a problem, why so many of us wanted him was beyond me, especially after Ireland showed us all what a problem player can do...

AM should have seen this coming, especially with the problems he had with him when trying to sign him for a friends down the road.

We have 2 out of our 3 top earners doing f**k all and the other being put in a right shit position due to tatics...

I think the divorce and the fall out with MON really has affected Lerner

It's all gone pear shaped since those 2 incidents

Saw him yesterday at the match, im hoping im way of course but to me he looked ill, lost loads of weight, very pale.......it could have been the s**t he had just watched but i have my doubts.....

Id like to see him on the wing, so hes got time to get into his stride. He looks a little overwelmed in the middle ATM.

This is a rather brave lady - NSFW

Like the shoes.

HMRC online self assessment website, takes hours to work out how to pay.

Ticketmaster (and all the others), who charge £3 for each ticket, to email a pdf ticket you have to print! WTF's all that about?

Play let me down a few times as well, they have even emailed me a year after saying they had cancelled the order.

We're both based at Gaydon

Glad you never said you worked at Gaydon, extended breaks and all that winding down in the canteen on a Friday............

how did you know that?

Im in the IT department, get all the server logs, so i know who, what, when and how long your all on the net........ :winkold:

We had the memo, from TATA, looks like your early finish Fridays up for grabs.

PS OP good luck on the job front.

If he plays he will do very well against them, he may even score imo, reckon playing against SAF team (him being scottish) will make all the difference, i can see it being the game he comes of age.....fingers crossed. UTV

The MP's pensions are not being affected, surely their working in the public sector?

On Unions, JLR unions have the upper hand.....lol, temp labour all over the place never won a battle since i have worked there, which plant and which Convenor ever won anything? (in the last 20 years)