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NRC as captain, master stroke from MON. His drive and motivation on the pitch is a vital factor in Villa's strong performance IMO, hope he plays the next game. Carew, West Ham performance was the opposite of this one, wanted the ball and worked very hard. All 8/10's.

Changed us beyond comparison to what we were, now for the next phase, and it will happen.

IMO we played with 10 men from the start and went down to 9 when Beye went off. People need to watch our games very closely, IMO one of our fans hero's has turned into a liability who can't play 90 minutes........Carew what the f**K is going on? Is he injured, not fit or has he got a mental block, I would rather Heskey have played the 90 TBH.

The ref was very bad, on both teams but especially for us. Next! UTV

Young to score 2. 4-2 TO THE VILLA!

Collins was clearly obstructed for Evertons goal, the ref was shocking. On Everton fans, even though its annoying for the away team, their waying and screaming does influence the ref, so why would they stop? Wish we would start it to pressurize the refs at Villa park TBH.

At the start of the season i would have accepted this result, bit disappointed now though as Everton are in their invertible slow start mode, reckon they will be there with us at the end of the season though, top 8.

Carlos getting sent off was all his own fault, he dived across their player and may, just may have got the slightest of touches on the ball (thats from replays).

Or he might not, just like Harewood didn't. The thing is, petrov always had the ability to be the player we need, Heskey doesn't. When was the last time Heskey scored more than 10 goals in a season, in all competitions? As we don't play with attacking central midfielders, just how do you think that Heskey is going to start turning things round?

Petrov did always had the ability, but him turning it around was not predicted by many and it took him a bit longer than 6 months.

As for the attacking central midfielders, we have Sidwell in that role now, how many games have they played together? Im not sure, plus with Downing to come in we will be changing our system and it just might be that MON has plans to play to Heskeys strengths when this happens.

My point is that even if Heskey, Knight and a few others were brought in Haste (and in error), MON has noted the mistake and rectified it and if the purchase of Heskey, Knight........ are given as reasons for MON to go , then it is a poor argument IMO.

MON has faults and one of them IMO is his stubbornness, but he does seem to get it right more than most. The transfer windows are very frustrating and MON has a history with Celtic that reflects this, their fans only real gripe of him.

If some Villa fans cannot back him now, who could they back and under what circumstances? I for one would rather be in our position than Arsenals ATM (CL aside). We are nearly there and after 3 years and from 16th position thats good going IMO. UTV

We would have to drop Petrov to fit NRC in and that ain't gonna happen. Sidwell offers us a different type of outlet to either Petrov or NRC. Heskey, for all his faults, has only been at Villa for half a season, he still has time to turn his Villa career around, just like Petrov did.

NRC will get his chance, probably against Sunderland, he needs to sit tight and keep his head down. How many matches have we won with Petrov staying on till the end, quite a few. We could have brought NRC on and lost or drawn these matches.

What did the Lescott situation have to do with Collins? The only team who were reportedly in for him before us were Stoke.

Zola did not want to sell him, that was the delay with Collins, Dunne was delayed because of Lescott. You can't seriously think MON leaves signing a player late because he chooses to? What benefit would it have? What would Mr Lerner say if he was?

Is signing great players, late in a transfer period, a big enough fault in a manager to mean you would want him to leave? Despite his relative success.

Arsenal do not win sweet FA with their beautiful game. We have a team of hungry British players, trying to wrestle their title back from the foreign invaders. Please stay and finish the job Mr O'Neil.

PS IMO this season could be the best chance we have to break this cartel up, we have no Europe and all of the usual top 4 seem beatable. 120-1.mmmmmmmm if I put a £10 on or even £100 that would give me...........! UTV

What a game, Gabby was unplayable at times, he really is going to be special if he continues to improve his game at this rate, they all grew as the game went on and TBH, they all deserved at least 8 in my book. Collins and Dunne.......what can you say?

A Young battled and battled and put a few quality balls in (the one that found Milner who passed for Carew to miss was an exceptional cross + the pass from Milner, if only Carew had tapped it in it would have been one hell of a goal).

Anyway had a read of a few match reports, the one I liked the most was from a Chelsea blog and included the line "Even as a recently spoilt Chelsea fan you have to wonder why none of Agbonlahor, Young or the brilliant Milner are pulling on our shirt this season. I’d swap any of them for Kalou."

Chelsea Blog's Villa v Chelsea match report

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How can you make this type of money and produce nothing? The world has gone mad and we do not seem to able to put the brakes on, another economic crash is in the wings. Might sell my house and buy gold.

Financial Services are like the oil that keeps the economy turning and company's like JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs making profits is a positive story that the economy is moving in the right direction again.

Neither of these companies recieved bailout money from the government of either the US or UK and by all accounts were well run allowing them to weather the economic crisis and come out the other side in good shape.

A positive news story on the economy for a change. I'd much rather be hearing these stories than headlines about these companies needing government bailout money.

I understand your point of view, but can't understand the principles of making vast amounts of money, but producing no goods, no raw materials, just money making money. IMO the system is fundamentally flawed. Only time will tell who is right, but I have a nasty feeling about an economy built on the principles of using money to make money, and no hard goods produced.

How can you make this type of money and produce nothing? The world has gone mad and we do not seem to able to put the brakes on, another economic crash is in the wings. Might sell my house and buy gold.

Met Astro once (ub40) he was having a piss outside my local (the Bradford arms, Castle Brom) My brother said to him "Oh, so it ain't true what they say about black men"

Indian women tend to do quite well in the Miss world competitions, they are beautiful. Ukranian girls are also very nice, but tend to be a little on the expensive side. :shock:

Well played, IMO we are still not in form yet we keep pulling these results out of the bag. Young was of the pace, IMO he is being hit hard early in the game and its taking its toll on his overall play, he will get his form back and when he does we will be flying.

Collins was very good IMO, Dunne was good but don't half commit himself in the tackle, can see how he gets booked.

Gabby, hes gonna be a real top quality striker for us see what he was trying to do against the SHA now, except this time he finished it perfectly.

MOTM for me was though was Brad, top quality calm, composed. UTV

The performance was not great but with better finishing we should have won 4-1, Milner, Gabby and Carew messed up very good chances and Carsley messed a decent chance up.

IMO we are still gaining form, which is a very good sign. The defence looked more secure than I have seen it in a great deal of time. The goals against tally for this season should be the best for quite a few seasons if Sunday has any think to show us.

My MOTM, Collins won header after header. MON took a risk in starting with 3 new players at the back, but it worked out and all of the back 4 played well. Dunne will become a great player for us a leader. Ash was quiet and Milner had a bad game for him, lots of missed passes.

TBH I Don't think we are firing on all cylinders yet, but to win matches like this one when we are not in form bodes well for this season.

I have recently been to Dorset and saw 3 Villa shirts and no Spurs shirts, North Wales 2 Villa shirts and no Spurs shirts (plenty of Liverpool and Man U though). Not sure why people are building assumptions on Spurs or any other club for that matter on estimated and outdated figures or no figures at all, just hearsay.

Star Player? For every Merson there is a Ginola. As for Carbone, IMO he only ever performed in odd games and is no more a flair player than either Young, Milner or Delph.

IMO Our profile has been raised more than most other Premier League teams (bar one!) in the last 3 seasons and for that I would like to thanks the whole team at Villa, keep up the good work. UTV

It'd be nice of the police if they either let us out en masse so there would be little chance of people getting picked off or provided decent protection to those they are going to let out in small numbers.

Would be nice if they let the away fans out first, then the homes 20-30 minutes later. Can't see many of our idiots waiting for the SHA retards to come out, especially if we win. Their fans however will wait hours to cause a bit of trouble and then run off throwing stones and bottles. About time the problem fans of certain teams are punished, if your fans have a proven record of trouble making it should be them who are held back, not the well behaved fans.

3-0 to the Villa with Gabby and Milner to score. Very confident and feel we are getting our form back on track. UTV

As a regular poster on this site, it's been difficult to read this thread. As some of you will know from my previous posts when Luke Young signed for Villa, his half-brother Andre was someone I knew extremely well. I remember the morning after Luke signed for us - knowing I was a Villa fan, Andre was thrilled to tell me about it, as he was when Luke got his chance for England.

He attended the school that I work at in Saffron Walden and I have been his form tutor, working with him every day, for his entire time at the school. I took him through everything from his GCSEs to work experience and A-levels; he was an amazingly talented, funny and fantastic person. I also taught him English when he was in the sixth form - he had just finished his AS exams in July and then went on holiday where he had the tragic accident. Andre and most of the other boys that went on the holiday had become really good friends of mine and everyone at school is still going through a really difficult time. Memorials events are being arranged by my students at the moment.

I think football can wait - for Luke Young - and for me at the moment. When he's ready, he's ready and I'm sure MON will do the right thing. Considering what the family, who I also know well, are going through, even a fierce local derby pales into significance.

So sad to learn of such a bright light going out so young. I feel the same way when I see our great young and dead soldiers pictured in the papers, such a waste of talent for us all. :cry:

IMO Luke should not play, if the SHA do sing any songs (sure they will) the lads on the pitch should shut them up pretty quick, no motivation needed here.UTV

IMO Milner, he can shoot and cross, but more importantly he can spot a pass, a defense splitting one at that. Think he has a lot more to offer and as someone else as pointed out he will continue to get better.

Young crosses well and has a decent shot, he can also go round a player, but only once in about every 3 attempts. On his diving, I think he has been harshly treated and the refs seem to miss some pretty heavy tackles he ends up on the end of. (Van Persies in the last England game nearly snapped both his legs!!)

Nice to have them both, but Milner gets my vote.

We will go back to a 4-4-2 formation now we have new defensive options? I have a feeling we will. :notsure:

I also think Delph in for Petrov would also allow us to get more support up front quicker.

I agree, but not from the start and to be honest I reckon it would be either NRC or Sidwell who would make way

Ps Sidwell, got into scoring positions quite a lot, missed them but still got there and thats why I think he stayed on.