Vive_La_Villa

I'm surprised we never won our opening 2 under MON.

It's because we won a game and did it well. It's the same buzz after we beat Arsenal last season. A few defeats and it will soon change I'm afraid.

These weren't jokes, they weren't "there were three men in a bar"

I'll say it again:

Imagine if your boss was secretly making racist jokes about you with your supervisor, or if you applied for a job and the person hiring looked over your CV and said yeah not bad but where are the white faces (or black faces)? Would it be okay because it doesn't really reflect their views?

Ok what if no jokes or comments were ever made but in his mind the boss hated you because of your colour and let his views treat you differently even though he was very complimentary about you to your supervisor.

Or the person hiring you looked at your CV and said they didn't feel you were experienced enough for the role when really the didn't hire you because of your religion or colour.

This is racism and is far more dangerous than jokes sent in a text message.

Exactly. Like the plenty of dogs in Cardiff joke. That wasn't that bad.

I doubt they are really their views. It sounds like politically incorrect distasteful banter to me. Pretty stupid but will be probably be forgotten in time.

This is essentially it, and it wasn't ever intended for the public. There's far more important events going on right now, it's a bit of a non-story.

It's not a non-story imo, and if I'm brutally honest I don't think it reflects particularly well on you if you think it is. They shouldn't be making those comments (and he seems to have made a lot of them) irrespective of whether he actually believes them or not.

I don't agree with those comments but in private conversations they can say what they like as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. It's just words man. Far more serious things going on the world.

So because there are more serious things going on in the world, it should be swept under the carpet that these guys are a pair of sexist, racist, homophobic tossers? Are you for real?

An ex-academy player for Cardiff was on Twitter last night telling how Mackay used to crack jokes about him being Somalian, didn't feel he was allowed to speak up about it either.

Well it's not being swept under the carpet is it? It just cracks me how quickly people take the moral high ground over a few private text messages. Anyone would think he is Hitler.

So when the rumours and snippets about Savile came out, people were right to ignore?

How on earth is that the same?

Also where did I say it should be swept under the carpet? They f**ked up and will face the consequences.

All Im saying is that racist, sexist, homophobic jokes between close friends does not reflect a persons views and actions.

Yes, yes they do. If they didn't why would they say/use them? Especially to the extent of these guys, abusing employees and such.

I think this highlights a huge problem with society. Imagine if your boss was secretly making racist jokes about you with your supervisor, or if you applied for a job and the person hiring looked over your CV and said yeah not bad but where are the white faces (or black faces)? Would it be okay because it doesn't really reflect their views?

It isn't just jokes that they were sending back and forth, some of it is just straight up abusive, disrespectful and distasteful.

These things actually go on but they're never brought to light, just like this hasn't been brought to light for god knows how long. I'm sorry but anybody that says it is a non-story or it doesn't reflect their real views/actions is deluded.

So you've never read or sent a racist, Sexist or homophobic text in your life?

I agree that they are over stepped the mark with it being directed at employees though.

I'm moving house soon and I'm almost certainly going to get fibre. Anyone managed to haggle Sky down on their prices? They're sorta average.

Also for those already subscribed with any ISP, do you get close to the quoted speeds?

I phoned sky last week and they knocked off 20% off my tv subscription price for the next 5 years. Also offered me free broadband for 2 years and £150 to leave my existing ISP. Unfortunately I only recently went back to BT

I doubt they are really their views. It sounds like politically incorrect distasteful banter to me. Pretty stupid but will be probably be forgotten in time.

This is essentially it, and it wasn't ever intended for the public. There's far more important events going on right now, it's a bit of a non-story.

It's not a non-story imo, and if I'm brutally honest I don't think it reflects particularly well on you if you think it is. They shouldn't be making those comments (and he seems to have made a lot of them) irrespective of whether he actually believes them or not.

I don't agree with those comments but in private conversations they can say what they like as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. It's just words man. Far more serious things going on the world.

So because there are more serious things going on in the world, it should be swept under the carpet that these guys are a pair of sexist, racist, homophobic tossers? Are you for real?

An ex-academy player for Cardiff was on Twitter last night telling how Mackay used to crack jokes about him being Somalian, didn't feel he was allowed to speak up about it either.

Well it's not being swept under the carpet is it? It just cracks me how quickly people take the moral high ground over a few private text messages. Anyone would think he is Hitler.

So when the rumours and snippets about Savile came out, people were right to ignore?

How on earth is that the same?

Also where did I say it should be swept under the carpet? They f**ked up and will face the consequences.

All Im saying is that racist, sexist, homophobic jokes between close friends does not reflect a persons views and actions.

I'm sure he was 2M?

I made the mistake of trying ketamine once. Worst 20 minutes of my life. No idea why people take it.

I know one person that dabbles with Special K and to be frank, you can tell. Shot to bits and on a downward trajectory.

Messes up you liver or your kidneys? It's basically horse tranq isn't it?

Why give drugs to a horse? Why drag them into it?

Drug pushers for you.

The most impressive thing I ever took was valium.

I took it and felt it had no effect whatsoever. I was chatting over the fact that it had not worked with the doctor and nurse, whilst they carried out the vasectomy.

Where can one get Valium?

Roy Keane's anger towards the officials was quite satisfying to see.

I doubt they are really their views. It sounds like politically incorrect distasteful banter to me. Pretty stupid but will be probably be forgotten in time.

This is essentially it, and it wasn't ever intended for the public. There's far more important events going on right now, it's a bit of a non-story.

It's not a non-story imo, and if I'm brutally honest I don't think it reflects particularly well on you if you think it is. They shouldn't be making those comments (and he seems to have made a lot of them) irrespective of whether he actually believes them or not.

I don't agree with those comments but in private conversations they can say what they like as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. It's just words man. Far more serious things going on the world.

So because there are more serious things going on in the world, it should be swept under the carpet that these guys are a pair of sexist, racist, homophobic tossers? Are you for real?

An ex-academy player for Cardiff was on Twitter last night telling how Mackay used to crack jokes about him being Somalian, didn't feel he was allowed to speak up about it either.

Well it's not being swept under the carpet is it? It just cracks me how quickly people take the moral high ground over a few private text messages. Anyone would think he is Hitler.

Con you're killing me!

“What do they need? Five players. Five proper players who can hit the ground running and turn round a situation that looks serious.”

Scholes listed his quintet: Xabi Alonso, Sami Khedira, Raphael Varane, Angel Di Maria and Mats Hummels.

With four of those currently at Real Madrid, it would certainly be a rather large cheque for the current European champions.

An unlikely prospect too but, according to Scholes, these are the sort of players United desperately need.

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Scholes talks sense. These are the world class players they need. Let's just consider the CD. Varane and Hummels are superb. Man Utd have been able to sign (who?) Rojos.

Man Utd have too many clowns and nearly-men and their plastic fans are melting away.

Yeah I think you've missed the point.

No body is saying he's not right. Just that it's a totally unrealistic list.

It's like Laursen piping up and telling us all Villa need to to improve is sign Ronaldo, Messi, Bale, Suarez and Heskey

It's really not. This is Man United we are talking about. Probably one of the biggest clubs in the world. They should have that calibre of player really.

But they haven't so f**k em!

I doubt they are really their views. It sounds like politically incorrect distasteful banter to me. Pretty stupid but will be probably be forgotten in time.

This is essentially it, and it wasn't ever intended for the public. There's far more important events going on right now, it's a bit of a non-story.

It's not a non-story imo, and if I'm brutally honest I don't think it reflects particularly well on you if you think it is. They shouldn't be making those comments (and he seems to have made a lot of them) irrespective of whether he actually believes them or not.

I don't agree with those comments but in private conversations they can say what they like as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. It's just words man. Far more serious things going on the world.

I doubt they are really their views. It sounds like politically incorrect distasteful banter to me. Pretty stupid but will be probably be forgotten in time.

Who are making comments like that if it isn't their views? If think your wrong about that.

You'd be surprised mate.

I doubt they are really their views. It sounds like politically incorrect distasteful banter to me. Pretty stupid but will be probably be forgotten in time.

I took LSD once. Little tab called Microdot I think it was.

Anyway it was so small I thought I missed my mouth and dropped it on the floor. Couldn't find it though so thought oh well never mind, and went off to football training. 30 minutes later I was high as a kite and had to pretend I didn't feel well to sit on the side. One of the coaches came up to me and started telling me shit joke after shit joke. It was killing me! Proper trippy surreal experience that lasts way to long and messes you up.

american and probably british special forces will already be over there doing missions, without a shadow of a doubt we alongside america and maybe other countries will go to war with these horrible bastards. we will destroy IS, i have no shadow of doubt about that but then a year or two down the line another group will pop up. i sometimes wonder if the world would be a better place without the middle east and israel, i have not doubt it would be.

Rugeley it really isn't that simple. A lot of the problems today in the Middle East were caused by the West.

Maybe it's just me reading your posts wrong, but you do seem to have a hard on for IS(IS). Do you support them?

Hardly a Hardon. No I don't support them. But I also don't believe everything I read or see in the news.

Out of interest what IS(IS) related news do you think is untrue/disbelieve? Presumably not the murdering, torturing, beheading, crucifying, slave trading and apostate chopping parts?

The evidence for the above is displayed proudly and directly by them on the internet.

As you liked the comment then same question to you, Snowy.

As Blandy said it's not that's it's untrue it's just the way it is shown. Why do IS hate America so much? Is it simply because everyone of them is evil and sent to earth by the devil himself to destroy mankind?

You gotta love him!

I can't believe how stupid these people are.

Floppys!

There's a woman at work, who I'm pretty sure has been coming onto me. I don't particularly fancy her, but I've no aversion to hanging out the back of her, and although she seems prim and proper, she has a glint in her eye that makes me think she'd be pure filth. Trouble is I like to keep myself to myself, and my private life away from work. I know if anything happened, it'd be all around the office in no time. I know I should DHUTWU, but I can't be doing with being the centre of the gossip.

Could you not keep it on the down low?

Save it for the Christmas party. Not too long now.

Cameron's in my fantasy football team. He must be good.

Con that was my point. It's not that they make bad defenders it's just that not many have come to the UK.