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Or Wednesday, Thursday, Friday Saturday etc etc!! ?

Sorry mate!! In the words of Westlife, I've realised in here it's best when you say nothing at all ?

Sorry bud, not going to get involved in speaking about any of that stuff. This place is very unforgiving, I'll leave it to others to share what they may know ?

I think a lot of pressure here in the UK might make a lot more noise. I've read all that stuff over the last few days and it casts the view of a 'fantasist' and a 'chancer' which sadly i think that's exactly what he is. Ultimately to Villa's undoing. I hope now England are out of the WC that the media take a closer look and do some honest and reliable reporting.

The genuinely worrying thing is we don't even know who would own us if Xia defaults on payments. Scary!!

More debt for our club/Xia Some land around the are of VP used to raise capital. #AssetStripping https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10484901/filing-history

They are indeed, this is why he's been evasive with the truth. Them loans differ in that yes it's an agreement with a bank to give us cash, but no the onus is on a third party to pay the money back, so it's not our debt. It was future capital he borrowed against. It's all the stuff he hasn't said that we ought to be more concerned about.

Well that's the thing, we don't entirely know. What is clear is the money taken from future earnings of player trading (as we've seen with Westwood, Snachez, Veretout) Where we've loaned against their owed fees to get cash now. This after the missed tax bill is what gives thought to him having serious cash flow issues (why else do it?) There are pieces of land that has been borrowed against as well as the final Parachute payment. So the 'no bank loan' is very sly, as it certainly doesn't equate to 'no debt' The big worry for me is WHO, WHERE and exactly WHAT is owed and to what parties. Also what are the repayment clauses and what are the interest charges on said loans AND who is culpable should their be a failure to meet a required payment (As we've seen today AC Milan have just been taken over by their owners 'debtors' ) will it be the club or Xia personally? So for me, despite his 'open letter' there is very little transparency from Xia. The other MAJOR thing to factor in is how are we operating day to day, ie how are we paying the bills now when we struggled last month, who again is supplying the cash/debt to do this? If a 'billionaire' is seeking investment but it won't help with ffp, A. he's really not a billionaire and B. What is he seeking the investment for? It's clear to me it is for 'operating capital' so he can keep paying the bills until he can sell (when he feels it looks like it's of his doing) of course no one is going to invest in those circumstances. My view on where he's at now is he wants out (despite what he says) but he wants it to appear on his terms. He will keep rejected offers for a stake (as they will all rightly want some say and control) and will either strike lucky and get an offer that works for him OR (and more likely imo) we will struggle to pay bills and end up slipping into Administration.

I realised after, but figured it would be corrected. Cheers!! it is a right old mess isn't it?!

If you can't pay your bills you cease trading and go into Administration. FFP isn't a problem until Next May. The reason we will have a fire sale is for Xia to pay bills and meet his commitment to debtors and avoid Administration and complete ruin and no chance of taking any money back. let's see if player sales get put back into the accounts....

By now many know that ffp (whilst being a genuine matter of concern, but not until next May) is a total bluff for severe cash problems. We need to sell several first teamers to A. Pay the bills and yes B. reduce the FFP losses. Let's not kid ourselves though. Xia is a BS artist and now has a face in Bruce where he now can hide away in China and not say a word until it all implodes OR he sells. If seeking investment doesn't affect ffp why seek it? It's purely because he needs help paying the bills and has already loaned against everything he can. He needs to sell and clear the f**k off

I don't know about Villa per se, but footballers on the whole are over pampered, so it can't just be something at Villa. Our training ground is pretty much standard for all top clubs now too.

I read this when you said it on the Bruce thread. I do think it's a pure coincidence, a bit like us being cursed etc!! I'd say the finishing of the training ground coincided with a period of new owners (it was just being finalised under Ellis) who didn't know what they were doing. We've wasted 10/12 years with poor decisions.

Blues going into a Transfer Embargo has tickled me given the grief I had by Blues fans over the summer. Another Chinese owner not fit for the job. Seriously the EFL needs to get a grip and have a proper luck at all this.

Where can I buy this pants? love them!!

Villa Park is only protected in the sense that it can't be sold without fans knowing about it first and therefore being able to also bid. The seller isn't obliged to sell to fans though. So no REAL protection sadly. **Edit, just seen that this was answered on the previous page. As with Leeds it will also be out Trust that would be informed of any intent to sale

Haha!! Fair one ?

Hollis was Chairman at KMPG too, one of the worlds biggest auditors. As well as Merrill Lynch checking over everything. Mind Boggling really.

All he has done is take the 5/6m per month figure and x it by 12. Great reporting Neil.

Yes WE need a "Reality Check" WE do........What a f**king cheek. We've had 8 years of a reality check and expectation adjustment. As I coined, He's the Chinese Gatsby a total chancer that doesn't deserve to own this grand old club.

Ps I don'y think he does care. We're a business and a project to him, one he thought he could make a quick buck out of, but maybe I say that with the last month fresh in my mind. I like you doubted his intentions from the get go....

I'm in no way suggesting we can. Cross wires I think. I'm saying the only real possible negative to a full on protest would be in his hurry to leave he may just sell to any old group, as opposed a more thought out sale, but then in ,y eyes he's a clueless numpty who will most likely sell to the highest bidder regardless.

I think he has a very very thin skin. Early days he was giving any journo that doubted him a #jerkalist reply and #fakenews what a clearing in the woods he looks now as he goes cap in hand asking for cash.........................but it's ok he's got loads of cash......honest!!! Put me down for one baseball cap please and a baseball bat in case it gets messy ??

They haven't done or said ANYTHING, that was my point. I'm not saying they have to come out and lambast the club that's my job ha) but say something. Reach out to the Trust and give them a platform. Interview them on their YouTube channel or podcast (or any of those fan groups) Many fans don't know who or what they do. We need them now and I think we need protests as we clearly have an owner that's publicly digging his heels in and let's be honest fobbing fans off. If he won't go easy, let's force him to sell. Make it impossible for him to stay. I guess the flip side to that is we don't want him to sell to just anyone, so it's a delicate balance. Most of all we want to be kept informed and we want it to be the truth, so I guess what I'm waffling on about and getting at is we need to hold him accountable at every step and we need fan groups/sites to do that. Let's heap the pressure on as the local press are like a wet lettuce.

Good points there mate. I noticed a HUGE switch in mentality on social media with the realisation that Jack will be sold, throw in Chester and say Kodjia and there may be an appetite and anger amongst fans to protest. Xia's comments, whilst welcomed (as we all asked for it) was depressing and I'd suggest a little disingenuous in parts. I've been massively disappointed with the VillaView fan group. Sucked up to the club to get access to VP and staff and haven't said a word all summer. They can't proclaim to be a fan group when things are rosey but then not hold the club accountable. As for the Trust they're a largely irrelevant and need to modernise and fast. If you had the Trusts objectives behind something like the 'The Villa View' reach across different SM platforms then they might have a chance.