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nowt wrong with voting Tory

he was great in a time when there many great Boxers

Mrs Cohen had applied to stand as a Labour councillor for the Birmingham ward of East Handsworth and Lozells Oh come on now Tony, poor effort. You could have put a tabloid spin on that to mislead people into believing all labour supporters are racist and anti-semitic based on an isolated case

I tried to think of a reasoned argument to that post, something along the lines of 10m people are SCUM, does that include teachers, doctors who voted Tory but I think Wow is better

You really do not have a clue do you? Cameron supported Blair and the call for war - 2006 Tory leader calls for stronger action against Iraq - 2002 Cameron still supports the war - 2010 Read Hagues comments pre the war and how he claimed actions did not go far enough Michael Howard tried a marketing spin during his failed election campaign, that some still try to spout now as fact - see you posts earlier. The reality is simple here, the Iraq war was and still is supported by members of both the Labour and the Tory party, some supporters still being the leaders of that party. The only party that was really against it were the Lib Dems. Don't forget this also which completely blows your flawed argument out of the water well I suppose you didn't deflect and mention the tories

yeah you are right, they had talks with Brown

Also there is nothing there to suggest the Libs and Tories did a deal before the Election. You're not making this up are you?

Could you please, please let me know where you got your info. I want to read it

Its not the Daily Mail thats for sure...! ok could you just let me know so I could check it out please

Just where on earth do you get this inside information from?

Didn't the Libdems spend some days with labour first but no deal was struck which led them to talks with the Tories

game and first set to watf

I cant follow you. Are you arguing my point or drat01

I think I would have voted for the war if the government told me Iraq had WMD and could land missiles in the UK within 45minutes . Interesting again that Labour supporters only defence of the war is to mention Tories , its as though you have no real belief that bunch of crooks were up to it hence the need to deflect

What a totally ridiculous thing to say. In the past 15 years more people have voted Labour then going by your flawed logic, and considering that most of the electorate are still alive as opposed to your 50 year "rule" that must make it more meaningful The reality is simple and is being shown on a daily basis - we saw it again today re the advisor to Cameron who is advocating the removal of basic workers rights re dismissal - the Tory party is funded heavily by a lot of people who in anyone's world would be classed as wealthy. For that favour they are rewarded by a Tory Gvmt with preferential laws and policies. The Tory party has always hated things like the NHS which they see as cost and favour the pay as you go model. Hannan is a voice piece for the real Tory supporters and we saw by his comments to the Americans what the thought process is. This Gvmt is a shameful one because so many of the Tory right wing attacks are being propped up by the LibDems. The country did not vote in a Tory majority but by the actions of the LibDems and their shameful willingness to support the Tory led policies we are suffering from one. On a more general note re economics, how much longer can Gideon keep his job? Again today we saw a lot of condemnation for what he says and his policies. These policies are now becoming dangerous what a totally ridicoulous thing to say. Using your flawed logic you didn't read my earlier post when I was commenting on All of the Labour Governments in my Lifetime. And why is it a shameful government. And why are the LibDems shameful. Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't make it shameful. As for George Osborne if he screws the economy as much as Brown he should go. As for policies which are dangerous, well the last lot took us into an illegal war, when British troops died, now thats dangerous.

So why have more people voted Tory in the last 50 years than have voted Labour, is that because they are all rich or could it be they may represent them better

Why is that...? When a party comes in power and out of all the first policies they can come up with the very first is a tax break for the ultra rich, instead of saying the first thing we want to do is to improve Hospitals, School and Crime then you kind of know who they represent. When you see a male dominant, elitist, super wealthy cabinet made up from Bullingdons finest, you know whose interests they are going to represent. Its certainly not for the majority of hard working citizens in this country. When you here that they are not going to touch the NHS and then push through plans to privatize it....? Students university fees increased from3k to 10k. Record unemployment levels. Double dip recession ect ect The unemployed, youth and vulnerable did not cause this recession the bankers did and yet who are paying for it the most. All thanks to the Tories..! No I think that Labour have good points. And I dont vote Tory just because it's not Labour. Thats blind bias in my opinion, just like my dad voted labour so I should. I dont care if they are in the Bullingdon club. For god sake man John Prescott was a local mp. He had no control over the english language, he was in a safe labour seat. He was elected time after time and became a multimillionaire, putting his offspring in government houses paid for by the tax payer. Having spoken to the man, without the unions he would have still been waiting tables on a ferry, so dont give me the Bullingdon club bit. I just think they are crap with the economy. I am old enough, just, to remember Wilson going on TV for the"pound in your pocket "speech The Dennis Healy IMF grab, The Dennis Healy, my mini budget The James Callghan "crisis what crisis" and the Gordon Brown and Prudence, whatever happened to her, "No more boom and bust (except it was the 5th biggest ever boom and the biggest ever bust) I think that covers most labour administrations Conservatives always lose power because people are fed up with them Labour always lose power because they have buggered the economy well thats my opinion

If you don't know and Risso don't know and VILLAFC2000 thinks its £100bn. My guess at £5bn per year is as likely to be as accurate as anyones isn't it

yeah but with labour £100m is only lose (sic) change

I was trying to be nice you buggers

I know labour did some good things. I think that not all that Tories do is good and not all that Labour do is bad. But you have to make a Judgement call on Election day and in the main I side with the Tories

But doesn't that report also say this could have been done over a decade ago. But as you might have guessed with Labour, they moan about the rich not paying taxes but don't do anything about it. I understand Gordon Brown was chancellor at the time. If anyone else in there job got 0% of the money back, surely they would get the sack

well thats a good thing isn't it. He's going after them. I'm sure they only put their money there when Labour left office

No i'm certain that lots of money is missed through Tax evasion. But to discuss it you really need to check some facts first, rather than make wildly inaccurate statements. And to quote the TUC, an organisation which pays the labour party is a bit rich

the last dozen or so responses were to your own question of why did he sell the Gold. Where do you get this figure of £100bn for tax evasion. I have googled it and couldn't find anywhere stating anything near that figure. If you could let me know I'll check it out. thanks I don't know exactly the amount. Your missing the point which is that lot of people get away without paying billions in tax - yet few people seem to be discussing that...! Never mind the Gold. THIS....!http://www.tuc.org.uk/touchstone/Missingbillions/1missingbillions.pdf You are not really quoting the TUC as an impartial source of information are you?