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As I said you've all won the 'biggest bloke' competitions. Are you all so small minded that you cant see that its not the peoples fault who they support? If you lot were born in Hull then you wouldnt even think about the blues. they're just people at the end of the day with families. So to call thousands of people in and around birmingham words removed is calling the kettle black really isn't it?

You win the biggest man of the year award..well done. its JUST another football team, which happens to be situated close to us. 50 years ago west brom were our rivals..do you HATE them asewell? what the **** does it matter?

you know what? fair play to them. if it means that blackburn are bottom come january and they have to pay more attention to the league then so be it!

just to add i am from birmingham so i too am 'in contact with them'.

When I look at player of the season I try and base it on who has improved and stepped up that extra level from last season? Who has added something to their game to make themselves a better player? So in my opinion Gabriel Agbonlahor should win it this year. Last season when he went 10-15 games without scoring, there were alot of people around me moaning about him being lazy and not running the channels, not scoring enough, not having a 'football brain' and should be dropped from the team in some cases. During preseason he has asked himself and the people who matter - where can i up my game? His strength on the ball is now a good level - i dont think we'll ever see Drogba strength but he held vidic and brown off the ball yesterday in a few instances. He hasn't lost any pace from where im sitting. He seems more willing to run down the channels this year so he is more determined to help the team out when we need to chase down from the front. His first touch seems much better this year, still not the best admittedly, but its improved considerably. But most importantly - he's scoring goals - valuable goals against some of the best teams in the country. He's near the 10 goal mark now so hopefully we will see him reach 17-22 goals by the end of the season. So my vote goes to Gabs.

Just another football club to me. Just because they are our closest neighbours doesn't mean anything surely? there are certainly 5 or 6 other teams im more worried about playing then birmingham city. I prefer supporting and following my own club then worrying about any others.

Its incredible how short sighted some people are. 2 weeks ago we beat Bolton 5 - 1...How have we had 6 poor preformances? Duuuh

James Milner is so manly - every cell in his body has a pair of testicles - even his sperm cells - and they can all be seen with the naked eye.

So what we're saying then is...its actually realistic? lol

I still cannot install .net framework 3.5 so i guess im gonna give up..

yea same, whenever it prompts me to download the .net mesh 3.5 or whatever it doesnt download and cancels on me. I've gone to the microsoft website as well to download it but again, it just says im not connected to the internet...its **** annoying! ah well.

Game face is back up. If anyone is doing theirs today or whenever, when you get to install the programme, you have to download .net framework, on mine it freezes and cancels. When i go to the microsoft website to download it manually, when i press download an empty webwindow comes up. anyone else getting that?

It says Bang but the letters are OUT OF ORDER!!

to be honest, overalls dont really mean much.. cos reo coker will have huge points for his stamina, tackling and passing whereas sidwell will have average stats for everything, so it depends on what you want each player to do for your team. In a 4-4-2 you'd maybe want to play reo as the defensive mid or sidwell because he's probably a bit better at passing and shooting. Overalls are looked into far to much.

The simple answer is, which do you use more and which is connected to the internet better. one or the other really. I dont know about the 360 (mine broke ) but we have 17 people on the ps3 pe a pro, so for online it should be pretty good. anyway, good luck choosing!

get it mate (on PS3 obviously ) and come on villatalks very own club!!

If you play as Marseille, there is a player called Kone. right winger, he's fast as ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol!!!!!

Ahh really? I follow David Rutter on Twitter (look for Ruski) and he's the producer of the game. He says this demo is about 80% complete. I dont think the graphics will change much though, they said they wanted to concentrate on improving gameplay this year not the graphics which to be fair, I dont think are bad at all. I think the running styles are much better - there are 3 in total for different types of player (big an strong, medium builds and smaller guys like ash and lennon) the full game should be cracking - and like some of you i'm looking forward to the manager mode. Last year I used Marseille and they were fun to play with because of the 4-3-3 they use you really had to play slowly and wait for your midfield to catch up with you. Hopefully we'll be getting more information on leagues soon as well, fingeres crossed for Argie leagues I think

yea the headers are hard i agree. All of mine seem to go over the bar lol. I like the way your player has to push the ball for it to move with him, almost like its an independent object - which it is. shooting is much better, although if powered enough still balloon over the bar a bit much for my liking. Jostling has been really improved, today whilst running with del peiro i came under pressure from metzelder i think who was about 6 inches bigger than me, however, his weight was on del peiro's shoulders so it forced del peiro under him effectively where he slipped under the weight with the ball, skipped off and shot under the keeper. It just seemed so realistic at the time and the replays did it justice. The refs are much better, one doing a one legged jump to let the ball under his body was nice. The cards without jumping to cut scenes are good. I had cannavaro sent off with 2 yellows and about 3 of my players crowed the ref not to give him the second yellow - with one player motioning "he got the ball" with his hands. The collisions in tackling seem much more varied and tackling itself is good, the players aim for the ball now - they dont just go in a straight line which last year - 9 times out of 10 resulted in a booking. the players positioning is good, i had a defender drawn to the ball which left ibrahimovic free to run into the space just created when he took one touch an smashed it into the corner. Types of goal are much more varied, 30 yard goals are now possible which is nice. You dont alway score when 45 degs and a finesse shot anymore either. Defenders are much more dogged this year as well, I had Terry scissor kick it off the line when someone chipped my keeper it was great to see. so overall the upgrades to the AI are really good strides to where the game needed to go, I hope they don't play around with the speed too much before its released either its got a good flow to it now. I'll be buying on release I think.

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You've chosen the correct option, I'm proud of you!! Upa da Villao To old and long in the tooth Been here before on SOoooOO many occasions, and fans are fickle because Football is a fickle game 8) Ahhh I always knew you were a good'un :winkold:

You've chosen the correct option, I'm proud of you!! Upa da Villao

You should do stand up, that was fooking hilarious So are we in a better state today than where we were at the end of last season? And you say patiance...... Its been 4 years, and we still dont know whoms playing right back or left back! Dont get me wrong mate, i want Martin to turn this around. But we have a squad thats weaker than what finished last season, and it looks like that we have no chance of seeing the 5 quality players arriving, that Martin said were a minimum requirement! Oh, wait for it....the transfer window aint closed yet. Well if he turns up many more gems like Heskey, then we might as well let it close now. And dont aim the fickle shit at me either, cos in 30 years of following my club home and away, im proberly more experienced to tell it how i see it. Martin? Love the guy....but you cant deny there are problems? Maybe I'm more patient than most then, but I don't think 6 months is a long time at all. If the internet weren't around then most people wouldn't even notice most of the things if you know what I'm saying, time goes slower with it here - especially in the transfer windows. As for the fickle remark, I didn't say anything of the sort, I said it takes a couple to rock the boat, but it takes a good deal more to steady it. If we draw against pool then I think everyone will be chuffed. I honestly don't think the blues will beat us, so thats some more points :? in my opinion. I think after 3/4 years in the job, getting us to 6th last season and the season before, then I do think he deserves a blip...Many managers have figured out the way we play now, and martins said that himself with his 'we're going to have to keep the ball' comments made a couple of weeks ago. So to me, thats evidence that he knows we only have a couple of ways to play, and he's trying to build on it. also, for the transfers people talk about i.e. the sneijers and van der vaarts etc, these are top top top players, they will keep their options open until the end of the transfer window, because - as has been discussed, they won't drop to our level without a fight. In summary, in my opinion he's got this entire season to sort out this problem. I don't mind if people boo at performances like wigan - frankly it was rather spinless, although I didnt boo but i did leave early :oops: , i had a BBQ to get to 8) . I think after the last few years he's at least earned that. look what happened to everton the season after they finished 17th. just trust it, be patient - we definitely wont go down - and i know thats not good enough really but lets give it a chance, lets not go back to the 3 year cycle that we experienced in the ellis era

Well by the sound of people on here: Thanks for the memories Martin, you took us from being absolute rubbish to a really decent team. Its a pity that people don't have patience anymore, but as you always say - 'its a results business' and the people who are impatient have a lot more 'power' in taking the feel good factor away than the people who try to keep it up.. best of luck in whatever you choose to do next, i'll bet you'll do a cracking job at stabilising and building it. :cry:

I didnt see the game but sky and dare I say the OS made it out like we made a few chances. overall I give us 9 an a 'alf out of 10