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i think we aim for 1st place in the group, and therefore play a strong-ish team. maybe rest a couple of people max.

That. Exactly that. 100% agree. too many reasons to list. but what i think the European Union needs to do, is to do less, but do it better. Cut payments right down by member states, cut red-tape, cut regulations, cut amount of people working for the EU, cut down their ambitions, cut down new member states. Focus on overall unity, the big picture, and not get involved in every stupid little aspect of national life.

i've heard about these blue people living in their cave.... do they play football or something? 8) are they like the smurfs?

its surprising that many more people think things have got better than worse. surely law of averages should mean for 50% of people it will have got better, and for 50% of people it will have got worse. (excluding those who it has stayed the same). :?

It because films age as technology moves on. Music stays pretty much the same, and so you can listen to music from the 1960's and it can still sound good. The song could have been made in any year. if you watch a film from the 1960's, you know you are watching a film from that decade. Things have moved on so much, that something that was 'state of the art' is now just laughable. also fashion, language, themes all change with time. As someone else pointed out, movie audiences are more demanding nowadays, which means that serious money needs to be spent on sets, editing, etc...

:shock: but why???? :? stick with standard chicks with chick-stuff, not confused ones.

ok, i have thought of a couple of films which are old (to me), and might benefit from a new version. top of my list is: ROBOCOP also maybe: Ghostbusters The Goonies Brewsters Millions

eh? i don't know any of those films, so have no desire for any to be remade. i'm not sure which film i would want remade - nothing that i really like, as that would spoil the film... so it would need to be something that should have been good, but turned out to be a disappointment. let me think about it, and i'll come back to this thread in a bit.

Last 30 years. Villa Everton Winner 1977 4 9 V 1978 8 3 E 1979 8 4 E 1980 7 19 V 1981 1 15 V 1982 11 8 E 1983 6 7 V 1984 10 7 E 1985 10 1 E 1986 16 2 E 1987 22 1 E 1988 Div 2 4 E 1989 17 8 E 1990 2 6 V 1991 17 9 E 1992 7 12 V 1993 2 13 V 1994 10 17 V 1995 18 15 E 1996 4 6 V 1997 5 15 V 1998 7 17 V 1999 6 14 V 2000 6 13 V 2001 8 16 V 2002 8 15 V 2003 16 7 E 2004 6 17 V 2005 10 4 E 2006 16 11 E 2007 11 6 E 2008 6 5 E

i'd hope you were right, but i think a lot of people would be more interested in who's gonna win X-factor and whether Man Utd win the league for the millionth time. A lot of people probably wouldn't believe that the future of the country was at stake, people would say well there's a war in Europe, doesn't affect me... and they'll stay in denial till thebad guys DO turn up at their house. We are a very apathetic country nowadays i think. Of course, half the population was an over-exaggeration, but i think maybe 25% might refuse or just ignore the situation.

It conscription but they aren't going to put you in prison, as i'd guess about half the population would refuse to go & fight. So in effect, its your choice.

of course there's a choice. You either refuse to fight, or hide in a cellar, or sign up. You might be a pacifist, or you might be too scared, or maybe you just can't be bothered. or you refuse just on principle that the goverment shouldn't force you to die for your country.

A new Hitler-figure has risen, he has taken over all of Europe by force, and the UK is the only European country which is still standing free. Nuclear weapons are irrelevant due to the nuclear shields protecting each country. Other mass weapons are also largely neutralized by the shields. USA, China & Russia were largely wiped out by nuclear weapons during World War 3, before the nuclear shields were invented. Our armed forces are severely depleted, and it seems that the UK is next to be invaded. The government 'would strongly recommend' everyone of suitable age to sign up to fight a ground war. Will you fight & potentially die for your country? (Assume its your own country in the same situation if you're not from the UK). edit: changed wording "requires" to "strongly recommends"

I've just been told by my work that due to extreme economic circumstances, i will earn £6,900 less in 2009, than current!!!! :evil: not much i can really do or say about it, not the right time to be looking for a new job. My salary will go back to normal in 2010 apparently... so i suppose thats better than nothing.

and currently it does none out of the 3.

I take ir from your comments that you are a criminal then? Prison being so nice and all? Because I'm shit scared of doing anything that might get me locked up. yes, i'm a criminal currently in leicester prison. thats why i can spend so much time on here, with my 4mb broadband connection in my cell. The mean screws only let me use it 8 hours a day maximum though, and they filter out the child p0rn sites. b&st&rds. seriously though, it might be horrible to a lot of law-abiding people, but to a lot of these criminals who don't have much in life, and don't have anything to lose, then its actually pretty ok. there was that tramp in manchester in the newspapers a couple of years ago. everytime he got released from prison, he'd commit a crime straight away so he could go back in. he said it was so nice in there compared to living on the street, that he didn't want to leave!!!! anyway, i think the thread has digressed from talk of Death Penalty to prison conditions. so i say... hang them all!!!!

that is true. that may make me think about changing my mind. also, if prisons meant no frills that would go some way to convincing me. its because prison is such a non-deterrent & non-punishment, that we are looking for the ultimate punishment.

once we have decided someone must die for there crime, surely it doesn't really matter how they die. just do it in the quickest, cheapest & humane way possible. i suppose the 'nicest' way would be to give general anethistic, and then lethal injection whilst they were under. or something like that. chopping the head off is supposed to be very quick, so some automated head-chopping machine could be ok. electric chair - yeah, i suppose. maybe, you have a system where the criminal can choose his method of death.... otherwise we'll be breaching his human rights ... hahaha.... oh yeah, you lost your human rights when you comitted that crime, scumbag!

exactly. In a civilised society, those that are not civilised should be taken out of society.

Everton are a good solid team, that are better than us in recent history. They also have the long-term history which is at least equal to us. they have similar attendances to us. They are basically the Villa of the North :-)

:nod: that sums it up for me. evil must die, for good to flourish.

I doubt that would stop anything. It's like telling kids they can't do this or that cause it's dangerous. they'll always think it wouldn't happen to them and they're smarter than that. Or try to get people to quit smoking by showing horror pictures. It simply doesn't help. horror pics on fag packets have been proven to reduce cigs consumption. it doesn't eradicate the problem (smoking or murder), but its just the first step towards sorting it out. even if it reduces violent crime by 5%, thats a good step forward.

the current average sentence for murder is about 12 years. to me, thats getting away with it. but yeah, i agree with you, if prison was hell on earth, and murderers got life (ie: 100 years sentence with no chance of parole), then the death penalty would be less relevant. also, all criminals should get billed for their time in prison. why should we pay for their crimes? let them pay for it themselves.

i meant that it would deter people from carrying out these crimes. it wouldn't stop all murders, but i would bet on the fact it would stop a good proportion. if the law was that murder automatically meant the death sentence, after the first few well-publicised cases, it would make people think. maybe televise the death, for added shock-horror. show the video in school to 16 year olds. 10 years hard labour for carrying a gun. 5 years hard labour for carrying a knife. death penalty for (1st degree) murder. it wouldn't solve the violent crime-problem, but it would be the first step towards it.

and whilst murderers are allowed to get away with it, 100's of innocents are murdered on our streets instead. i vote for the life of my family, my friends & the other innocent people in this world, against the life of a murderer.