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Ah but you're forgetting the fact that she's a lying piece of human excrement and if she'll say anything she has to in order to get MPs to vote for her WA. I think she sees it as the only way her tenure can be seen as remotely successful

Well the throbbers only objective since the referendum has been to engineer a complete "no-deal" severence from all EU institutions. They're rightly celebrating that as that scenario is closer today than it has previously been. The Remain/Ref2 side are happy because that's closer today than it has been at any time. The only people unhappy about this are the ones wedded to May's deal...I can live with that.

Wow. That's explosive it really it. Bercow has just nuked May's entire 2 and half year negotiation...well played, sir. Well played.

Yet more MP's switching to back the deal...surely she can't get this through? It's astonishing the amount of MPs saying publicly they'll back it even though they know it's a bad deal/wrong for the country. It's like a choice between being kicked in the head or kicked in the balls.

The people that told you that lied to you...we've been trying to tell you for 2 years and if that still hasn't dawned on you I really don't know what to say anymore.

The sight of Francois visibly red and foaming with rage has to be made into a gif.

Interesting (and highly explosive) suggestion that Bercow might rule that the same deal can't be brought back for a 3rd vote The following extract from Erskin May is doing the rounds to suggest that what May is doing shouldn't be allowed.

How are they blackmailing us? Genuine question as I can't add up your logic there. Surely if they're "shitting themselves" about the prospect of a no deal and we're keeping it on the table it's us blackmailing them...

She lost by 230 last time and 11 Tory's have said they'll switch to for + the vile creature that is Caroline Flint.

Defeat by 170

Turns out Jon Snow doesn't know nothing

You clearly have more faith in politicians than I do...I think it could be close tonight if the attorney general decides to stand up and lie through his teeth. The ERG are profiteering cowards but they're sensing a change in the mood and their fear of no Brexit at all might be enough to make them swallow some manure.

There kind of is really. They need to read the document and compare it to the original in order to make that assessment. You also need to read this addendum to assess whether it's what we suspect, complete arsewater...that's scrutinisation, surely?

The more you read about this the more it looks like dirty tricks again, or an ambush. The announcement coming so late, without the opportunity to allow MP's (or anyone really) to properly scrutinise the deal. Pretty despicable, isn't it?

I love that first clip so much. Will Self can be (and tbh, is) a massive dick (no pun intended) but he's 100% correct there. Francois knew exactly what he said the first time he said it, pretended to be offended and completely misrepresented what was said to suit his own agenda....Brexit in a nutshell. People on my facebook timeline and twitter that I know personally, though their views I have no time or respect for at all who constantly post "Tommy Robinson" rubbish all voted out. I don't know a racist bigot that didn't.

It always helps to have some less intelligent than you in the house... Thankfully she doesn't read VT or I might see a second act of thuggery from a nose in a week!

I've thought this a couple of times. It helps that the Mrs is a nose (Witch! burn her! etc etc) so I can ask her. Apparently they think he's "cocky". So naturally I ask "in what way" and the basic gist (after wading through nonsense), is that they don't like the swagger he plays with and the fact he draws so many fouls (he dives apparently). At it's core I believe it's pure jealousy and hatred that we've got a proper player, arguably the best in the division but certainly one of them. He plays with a confidence and is able to draw players in thinking they can take the ball and has the ability to take it away from them, often taking lumps for his trouble. He's a local lad who came up through the academy which doesn't help him in this regard as he's seen as "Mr Aston Villa" which obviously leads to even more hatred.

If she does try any smoke and mirrors to save face Corbyn should be dusting off his VONC motion.

Probably. When you're constantly being painted as the party that trashes the economy and you do mental things like this to prove them right.

https://news.sky.com/story/former-militant-figure-derek-hatton-readmitted-to-labour-33-years-after-being-kicked-out-11641528 Crazy stuff

All about diesel though isn't it?

Which part?

Realistically it should be ringing huge alarm bells for those in Labour that they arent showing miles ahead in the poles now. The Tories have completely **** Brexit up, **** up the transport system, **** up the benefits system, **** up the NHS. The fact that there are poles as recent as a few weeks old showing people believe May is more capable than Corbyn shows that he's not going to get in under all but the most dire of circumstances for the country. We've got throbbers on both the Tory and Labour side who want to burn the whole thing to ashes so they can remake the country in their own fantasy image.

The effect is the same! Hounding out members who they don't agree with is the same regardless of how you do it.

He's referring to LB and her local party starting the process to deselect before being called off by Corbyn as it opened him up to further accusations that he's a raging anti-semite. I suppose this depends on the basis for which the deselection was taking place. The process is usually reserved for those who've done major wrong (the recent MP who broke the law when she lied to police following an accident being a prime example). Disagreeing with the leader doesn't qualify. In this case it's clear that there were anti-semetic undertones...see the following... Source: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/08/labour-withdraws-luciana-berger-mp-no-confidence-motion