Denis_B Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 If AVPLC announced a new share issue specifically to raise funds to buy players would you support it by putting your hand in your pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Voted yes. Wouldn't be able to afford many though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 30, 2005 Author Share Posted January 30, 2005 Well it was by this very route that I became a shareholder in 1968. If Doug loves the club, and the manager, CEO and a non-exec director want outside finance why not try this first? Of course Doug will have his holding diluted...... but of course he could always buy some and thereby actually use HIS money for once in supporting the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 also voted yes, would find a way of putting a few £100 in, maybe as much as £500. But it would have to be stonewalled for the benefit of the football side, we bette not see the no oh look we found £13million pound down the back of dougs sofa, ah never mind we've already bought some players from the proceedes of that share issue, lets rebuild the last bit of Ellis park with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 30, 2005 Author Share Posted January 30, 2005 Just an idea I'm floating around mf...... coz rather than the buy a player fund this is one way of making sure your money is protected... And you can go to the AGM and join the Shareholders Assoc.... what fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Be interesting how much they could propose to raise, and who would be willing to underwrite it (promise to buy up any unsold shares) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 How would you go about Convincing the club (Ellis) to do something like this?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 was wondering if it could be put forward at the AGM as a resolution, along the lines of the club seriously exploring the raising funds by such an issue. bit like the resolutions put forward at the last AGM would place doug in an interesting position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 30, 2005 Author Share Posted January 30, 2005 was wondering if it could be put forward at the AGM as a resolution, along the lines of the club seriously exploring the raising funds by such an issue. bit like the resolutions put forward at the last AGM would place doug in an interesting position. Nice idea mf........... my concerns only are that £llies could actually strengthen his position BUT if the money was used properly.... say only needs to be about £10m.... plus the £6m in the kitty and the more than that in the Summer announced by Brucey Bonus this morning could give DOL the 'pot of gold' = £20m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 30, 2005 Author Share Posted January 30, 2005 COME ON LURKERS........ 43 reads 8 votes!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 And why do people vote no, then not explain why, is it just a finacial thing or is there a reason to think t's a bad idea? My fear as well would be either doug buying up lots of shares (maybe even in share rights at preferencial prices) or maybe even worse petchy taking the opportunity to grab a bigger percentage slice, in petchy's case it may force his hand over where he thinks he can make his profit. either way i'd like some safeguards against the two biggest shareholders gaining a stronger position within the club. Maybe something along the lines of being limited to a number of shares which would allow them to reatin a similar percentage holding of the company as before the share issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartR Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 I voted no for two reasons. a) I'm a student with hardly any money, struggling just to pay simple living costs. Even if I did have the money I would need reassurances that this is really going towards productive investment for the club. The situation at Villa is breaking my heart, but at the moment I just couldn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 30, 2005 Author Share Posted January 30, 2005 Come on chaps...... this isn;t really serious but just an idea being floated. We have done similar before - NTL deal - (share options only then) that financed some of our biggest buys....... but Doug used the PLC money to buy then back if you recall before he had to issue shares and be diluted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_cresswell Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 no. i pay over £2000 a year to aston villa. isnt it the job of the board to supply transfer funds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 no. i pay over £2000 a year to aston villa. isnt it the job of the board to supply transfer funds? No' i'd say it was the job of the board to find the funding for transfers, not supply it, this is one way of attempting to secure funding, one which you have every right to choose not to support or participate in. Other options could include a price increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_cresswell Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 so while the board members who take out more in a year than i will earn in 5 keep on taking. i as a fan have to keep giving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattley Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 I would love to buy some shares, voted yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Copenhagen Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 If the club wont issue more shares, then how about setting up a company that buys shares - to put pressure on Ellis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Can you imagine Villa fans agreeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaRob Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Voted yes but would be worried about the share prices as we all know how they plummeted at the floatation, but theoretically this is an excellent idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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