Milfner Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Ginn really ought to be making that catch for the first down. Gano FG, 10-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 10-3 halftime. Still only 1 first half touchdown conceded all season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Look at that on 3rd down by Cam. Evades four defenders and as scrambles for the first down. One of the plays of the season!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 TOUCHDOWN OLSEN! Great drive, Newton and Tolbert coming up big on 3rd downs, 17-10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 What a game! Ginn TD with 59 seconds remaining! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Hahahahahaha Brady, get it up ya! What a win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 19, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 19, 2013 That Newton is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Nah, he's just an overhyped run first QB. Ain't that right, Kurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 19, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 19, 2013 That was the first Patriots game since the 2011 season where the Patriots failed to force a turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyPowers Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 That was a pretty awesome game tbf. Probably my favourite game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Nah, he's just an overhyped run first QB. Ain't that right, Kurt? IMO, yes. The fact he barely put up 200 yards through the air against a pretty average Pats D doesn't really disagree with that either. Horrific call to end the game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 19, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted November 19, 2013 Hope the Pats smash them. I get bored of the over-praise Cam Newton gets every time he is able to have a half decent game. Seems to be the trend with these run first QBs though, get all hype over nothing.Bummer dude IMO, yes. The fact he barely put up 200 yards through the air against a pretty average Pats D doesn't really disagree with that either.Well if we're all about facts, he just beat the 7-2 Patriots. 3 passing TDs to Brady's 1. He carried the ball 7 times compared to 28 passes. And the Pats are 12th on passing D (229yds) which isn't that shabby. To be honest I think what happens all too often, and what has happened here, is we make our minds up on a player and then fit all the stats/evidence into a shape that fits our conclusion, rather than the other way around. Newton is a lot more than a run first QB and it's a little exasperating to see people try and make out otherwise. Why not just enjoy the man's gifts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) It's the same with football. Some players/teams get shoved down your throat and you get sick of it, particularly when you feel said player does't live up to the hype. The Packers and Peyton at least live up to the hype, as annoying as the media obsession is. To be honest I think what happens all too often, and what has happened here, is we make our minds up on a player and then fit all the stats/evidence into a shape that fits our conclusion, Well, what else are people do to? That's just an opinion. I'm not going to say I think Newton is average, then he has a great game and call him a great QB, then he has a bad game and call him a bad one. I think you have to base your opinion on the whole of what you feel, not game by game. Anyway, no opinions on the no-call? Edited November 19, 2013 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 19, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted November 19, 2013 I didn't see it tbh. I saw none of the game. All I know is there was a controversy and the refs are happy they made the right call. I've no idea on the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 It's pretty bad IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 19, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted November 19, 2013 It's pretty bad IMO. I take it it's a non-call on DPI? He was never beating #38 to the ball so #59s interference is incidental IMO. There's definitely contact yes, and I suppose that's where the controversy is. But it wasn't the difference between him catching the ball and not catching it. I'd probably feel fairly aggrieved as a Pats fan though. Levi what are your thunks on the matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think what makes is that when Gronk puts his breaks on to turn towards the ball he's right next to #38 and while #38 would be the favourite, there's still a chance. But Gronk gets pushed further and further back making it a zero chance. Like you say, if that happens to us we'd be pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 19, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted November 19, 2013 For me, the first foot plant from Gronk that you could call 'putting on the brakes' has him already a big second favourite to the ball. You're right there's still a chance especially with it being Gronkowski and I can see both sides. I can see why the refs feel vindicated and I can see where a fan would want the call. Trying to be objective I think the refs got it right, but #59 can count himself lucky that he didn't cost his team big time. He gave the refs a big decision to make and I've seen much softer calls given in the past. Not that those soft calls were right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I personally think it should be called, I don't like it when a defender can essentially win a game on a borderline decision by basically cheating. But at the same time, the refs don't get to see it in a slow-mo replay over and over like we have and no matter the call, with it being so close, they would have a bunch of fans complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 19, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted November 19, 2013 See I think pass interference in general is given too readily against the defence. It's a huge penalty that can span the entire length of the field and as I heard one described recently, it was called on a pass that was "destined for the peanut vendor in the stands", which is infuriating as a fan and all too bloody regular! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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