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Ashley has been wearing that knee support since he got a knock in one of the pre-season games, maybe Kev thought now would be a good time to rest him for one game. Because it's 2 legs and in the home leg he would expect us to win.

This.

We would be stupid to pull out of taking Ireland, Middle 20's with 3-4 years left on his contract plus the kid has talent and we got him for 9-10 mil.....that's a bargin Maybe he didn't play so great last season, but he had many players come into the squad around him. Now he is being offered a new home with alot of players around his age.......It doesn't matter that Lerner let the deal go ahead, he wouldn't have done that if he didn't think it was in the best interests of the club, it wasn't like he was going behind a managers back because we don't have one. If it had been Messi that was part of the deal, none of this would have been talked about.

What's that meant to mean? Kevin is well liked at AV with many players and staff, just because MON had a good relationship with Petrov it doesn't mean Petrov can't have them with other people at the club also. I'm sure Petrov was sorry to see MON gone, but that's just it.....He's gone, life goes on.

He isn't a billionaire owner for nothing, he isn't stupid with his money. Although he must have trusted in MON awhole lot to pass off the money for some of the deals he did. I have no personal preference to who should be manager, all I know is this is an exciting time for AV and the person/persons who will make them choices will make the best or I hope they make the best ones for the club. The manager isn't in my hands so I feel I don't need to waste my tiny brains time thinking to much about it. I'm fine with Kevin taking over or whoever else, they will be chosen wisely I'm sure.

The best managers are in jobs, Jol is currently in a job, he is the best we can hope for because he is or was looking to move to another club. The other managers who we could get aren't currently working for any club.....To me that don't sound like they're the best. Why throw money at possible managers who aren't the best when we have a perfectly fine reserve team manager now caretaker manager who knows our players better than anyone could, youth and first team.

Randy Lerner wants to offload those players who are doing NOTHING but warming the bench up each game, they were doing it under MON even though MON asked for the money to sign them and put them on stupid wages for the type of player they are. We don't know what went on behind closed doors, who's to say MON didn't say to Lerner, we really need this and that player they will be great for the club....Then they didn't get a chance of playing. I'm not saying that's what happened, but seeing as Lerner agreed to buy them, he must have been told something.....Yet he watches them players picking up 50k 40k per week for sitting on the bench week in week out. You would be an idiot not to question some of MON's buys, that would also leave you to question future buys and can he be trusted to make them.

I think you're missing one major factor, those teams had managers in place when that happened, we have no manager, he hasn't gone behind any managers back and he never when MON was at AV. If you know more than us please do tell, but from what I've heard MON was the one who wanted Ireland as part of the Milner deal and Lerner just went ahead with that after MON left us in the shit 5 days before the start of the season. Well I say in the shit, he did infact leave us with a good team that a new manager to build on, but he left nonetheless 5 days before the start of the season.

Whoever we get it is a gamble, who's to say Jol will do fantastic here? Although that's many fans first choice.

I am staggered you seem to think that is a fact. From what I can tell MON picked out Ireland in the swap, they got into the advanced stages of negotiations and then MON left. In this tricky situation Randy consulted with MacDonald and decided to go through with the deal. Hardly Abramovichesque Schevchenko buying is it? Unless Mcdonald is our Manager, the owner has bought Ireland What problem do you have with SI? Isn't he good enough for you? Do you think we should have offered 50 mil to buy Gerard? He is good value for money in my opinion, not forgetting he was Citehs player of the year just 2 seasons ago. If Lerner has bought him then I would like to say thanks to Lerner, I think he will add something to the team we already have in place, something that we might miss with Milner going. Milner was going anyway, like it or not....It just would have happened alot sooner.

I think you should be asking West Ham if they want to keep their Manager because they lost 3-0....We never. I never doubted that we would win, in this case it was by how many. We have some real good talent at AV and we just need the right person to guide them.....Many questions will be asked at AV to who that person should be, before that person is offered the job......They're not just going to pull a name out of the hat. If they decide that Kevin is that man then so be it.

I don't think Randy Lerner is about a sign a player that is worth 10 million without asking questions if he will be good for the club. Kevin has done fine with the reserve team and he knows them young players better than anyone at the club, that's the sort of players we need to move up to the first team squad and I think he would be the best person to do that, not spending 20 mil here and 20 mil there for a player with a bigger name. We have a good squad without them younger players moving up, but atleast this way they will have a chance of doing so. As for MON, he walked out on the club 5 days before kick off, we will maybe never know the real reason why, but just walking out of the club 5 days before kick off isn't the best thing he could have done. Who said Lerner isn't going to invest? Maybe he didn't want to give MON anymore money to buy players like Sidwell, Heskey and all them others who aren't that great.

More importantly, n 13 days left to do ANY buying The only problem I see with us buying more players is, they will want to play first team football, we can't offer "good" players crazy wages to attract them to Villa, the promise of first team football is what will make them players come. If that would be the case, who do you drop from the first 11 for the new people that you "hope" Villa sign. We have a problem at AV now where we have some not so great players on higher wages than they would have got at other clubs and they're happy to stay at Villa on the bench or in some cases not even get in the squad. Better players wouldn't stand for that, more so knowing there are players around the same wage bracket who don't have a chance of getting into the first 11.

It's just as possible that the next manager will not rate some of players who play in the first 11 team atm and rate SI. How long did SI have left on his contract at Citeh? 4years? 3 years? Ozil had 1 year left and Real Madrid are paying 14 mil for him? Milner had 2 years and Citeh are paying 26mil, that's 16.5 mil cash and SI who they say is worth 10 mil. That's not even 3 mil for each year if SI has 4 years left on his contract. MON was fine with bringing SI to Villa before he left and he if had stayed we would have got him as part of the deal, I don't see why that should change. Maybe the deal had gone too far once Villa accepted 16.5 mil and Ireland. All I know is that we don't have another player like Milner in the squad so bringing in another creative player isn't a bad thing.

The wages to revenue issue hasn't disappeared, Milner left and HAD to be replaced....I think we've got a good replacement. We need to get rid of some of the players who are never going to make it in this club that will free up them wages. As for them bringing in Ireland with no manager in place, Villa paid 12 million for Milner? We're going to recieve 16.5 million from what I've read and Ireland....That is a fantastic deal that can't be turned down and it was accepted by the manager what was in place at the time, so if it was good enough for "our best manager in years" it should still stand. Citeh are off their rockers for even letting that deal go ahead, look at what Real Madrid paid yesterday for 2 class players. We got a fab deal for 1 player that is motivated by owners waving shiny shiny infront of his face. "motivated might not be the correct word in that sentance, but I'm on my first cuppa and can't think straight, I'll change it when I think of a more fitting word" .

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If he is a good player though, 600k doesn't seem alot of money.

You said it.

I'm sorry Blandy, but what you just said is dribble. If we think Milner is worth 30 Mil Ireland is worth more than the 8-10 mil we paid for him, we've got a fantastic deal. Every player will be looked at by whatever new manager comes in.....He could say he don't like a number of our better players and not play them....Atleast he will have that choice. I'm really excited for the club this season. Give Ireland a chance you've not seen him kick a ball yet in a Villa shirt.

Oh that's all we need.....You know this how?

I chewed all my finger nails for nothing then. Meh

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I wish TheTrees would walk a bit fasters.

Well we now know what you were dreaming about last night. I like sleep that much that I dreamed I was sleeping.

For me personally, MON did nothing but frustrate me.....When players on the pitch were tired MON would just leave them on and the other team would score because of that. All them draws last season when alot of them games we should have won, if he only changed some of the first 11 when they were clearly tired. No point winning games against the top 4-6 teams if you can't beat the 10 teams below you....Anyway thinking about MON and how he never gave some players a chance makes me grrrr. New subject please!