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  1. I've missed large parts of games doing just that but minus a megaphone, it's not as if you're going to miss anything on the pitch.
  2. We sing various songs, classics like "in 1982", "Nigel Spink rolls the ball", "Come to Birmingham and you will see",then a couple of others that weve made up. We don't expect everything to catch on immediately and in the Holte it can be hard to get some songs to spread, especially in the current climate at the club. I think the english support traditionally been better but has died on it's arse in nearly all home grounds in the premier league in recent years, that's down to many things from all seater stadium, over the top stewarding and ticket pricing, all parts of the modern game I personally disagree with.
  3. The blurred faces are for various reasons P3te, a) people might not want their mugs plastered all over the internet without permisson in the past we've had a bit of grief from stewards and even police for persistent standing c) some members might not want their employer to know their association with the group, the "ultra" tag has quite negative connotations for some who's only udnerstanding of the scene comes from the tabloid press and i don't think people would want to have to have the conversation with their boss about what being part of such a group in the uk means. Certainly not a firm in any way, shape or form. If you're a firm then you wouldn't want to stand out by bringing flags, banners and displays into a ground.
  4. Brigada 1874 highlights from the 2013/14 season. Hopefully be more of the same next season. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYYGsnYkKME
  5. I am a Villa Fan It's the way i'm made I am a Villa fan The way i'll always stay Standing on the Holte End We are always there Aston Villa FC My one and only care http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usYgf8cVfvU
  6. The two men arrested are Roma fans. They're being charged with attempted murder, which is unusual in Italy since part of the reason fans are slashed across the buttocks is that generally people aren't charged with attempted murder if they attack someone with a weapon below waist height.
  7. This happens every time an English team plays in Rome, but it also happens to other Italian teams supporters in Rome. The use of knives by Italian hooligans isn't common but does happen in both Rome and Naples. Interestingly police are saying they suspect at least one Roma fan to be involved in the attack so it seems like members of Lazio and Roma firms teamed up. It has also been suggested that anti-semitic shouts were heard during the attack so it's quite likely that this was far-right fans from both Rome clubs. The police in Italy generally do **** all to combat hooliganism, they have a similar mentalaity to many of the hooligans, they'll give fans a kicking, crack a few skulls but rarely bring charges against anyone involved unless they target the police themselves.
  8. I predict this to be a damp squib. There doesn't seem to be any logic behind the protest nor any idea how this will actually help the team. Everyone knew this season was going to be difficult having lost our two most creative players and gained a new boss and while things aren't going great that's just football. If some fans spent as much energy getting behind the team as they do protesting and whinging we'd have a cracking atmosphere for this game.
  9. The word going round is that the police and security services let the Al Masry fans attack the Al Ahly fans and players. Apparently the al ahly ultras have been heavily involved in the protests against Mubarak and the military government and this may have been the police giving them their commupance as they see it. There was also a fire started at a game in Cairo possibly as a show of protest at what was happening at the al masry v al ahly game.
  10. Great to hear that the club are backing this. Another lad and I raised this at one of the past supporter consultation meetings and it's something the fans have wanted for some time. It'd be absolutely fantastic to have terracing back at VP, seats are a proven liability to your legs whenever we score, safe standing is surely going to involve a lot less pain!
  11. with the whole crowd with their arms up swaying left to right to centre That's a cracking idea, if you got everyone to sway from the left to the right in time with that it would look the dogs.
  12. My bold: Only in Egypt so far and I think international pressure will ensure a hand over to civil control. The danger is that although this is being led now by idealised youth dreaming of democracy, the civil structures to make it happen don't exist - indeed they've been ruthlessly smashed by the secular dictators who are now getting the good news from their people. By some distance the most organised opposition groups are Islamists and they generally have an agenda that does not include liberal democracy. Worth noting that in 1979 Iranian youth was far and away the most Westernised in the region and we know how that turned out. Maybe the ideas of the youth will win through, but the bigger struggle will start once the dictators are gone. That's where the West needs to be focusing our diplomatic and financial resources. Another interesting scenario is the emergence of a Saladin type figure somewhere down the road who can unify the whole region - maybe around 2012.... Isn't the danger that it is interference by the US and to a lesser extent the UK that has helped fuel the growth of the Islamists in opposition and that any further interference will simply give further credence to these groups? What is there to suggest that the US and UK wouldn't support another dictatorship in the region in order to protect their financial interests? Like you say it doesn't seem as though the progressive elements in Libya, Egypt or Bahrain are anywhere near as organised as they were in Iran in 1979 where you had a left leaning democratic movement that was crushed and recuperated by the Ayotollah and the ultra-conservative religious establishment. However this is obviously spectulation on my part as I'm none the wiser to anyone else about the situation on the ground amongst progressive elements in these countries. Religion is a great tool for putting the breaks on revolutionary movement and it wouldn't be surprising in the slightest if religious leaders managed to take hold of the revolutionary spirit in these countries and direct it for their own means and ends.
  13. Undesirable

    Amsterdam

    Last time i went to Holland i couldn't work out whether their pre-rolled splliffs had tobacco in or not, but i presume they must not have. However reading around it sounds like some of the shops have designated smoking areas inside the establishments where you can smoke cannabis/tobacco spliffs, while others will ask you to smoke them outside. Best to just ask the propierter of the joint (excuse the pun). I'm heading out there for the penultimate weekend in April and can't wait, it's all about smoking the hash out there for me because it's very hard to get hold of in the UK where as skunk seems ubiquitous. It's also something i can function on during the day as opposed to smoking a spilff of white widow and spanking it at midday!
  14. Thanks for passing my query onto the relevant people General, much appreciated.
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