Undesirable

I've missed large parts of games doing just that but minus a megaphone, it's not as if you're going to miss anything on the pitch.

We sing various songs, classics like "in 1982", "Nigel Spink rolls the ball", "Come to Birmingham and you will see",then a couple of others that weve made up. We don't expect everything to catch on immediately and in the Holte it can be hard to get some songs to spread, especially in the current climate at the club. I think the english support traditionally been better but has died on it's arse in nearly all home grounds in the premier league in recent years, that's down to many things from all seater stadium, over the top stewarding and ticket pricing, all parts of the modern game I personally disagree with.

The blurred faces are for various reasons P3te, a) people might not want their mugs plastered all over the internet without permisson in the past we've had a bit of grief from stewards and even police for persistent standing c) some members might not want their employer to know their association with the group, the "ultra" tag has quite negative connotations for some who's only udnerstanding of the scene comes from the tabloid press and i don't think people would want to have to have the conversation with their boss about what being part of such a group in the uk means. Certainly not a firm in any way, shape or form. If you're a firm then you wouldn't want to stand out by bringing flags, banners and displays into a ground.

Brigada 1874 highlights from the 2013/14 season. Hopefully be more of the same next season. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYYGsnYkKME

I am a Villa Fan It's the way i'm made I am a Villa fan The way i'll always stay Standing on the Holte End We are always there Aston Villa FC My one and only care http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usYgf8cVfvU

We don't have anyone on the pitch who reads a game like Carzola but like you say he'd follow his every move, if not pre-empt it.

I'd be tempted to stick a man on Carzola to try and take him out of the game. He's Arsenal's main threat and pulls the strings. I know that we should play to our own strengths but i just wonder if sticking someone like Holman on him who will follow his every move and neutralise him may be a good idea.

The two men arrested are Roma fans. They're being charged with attempted murder, which is unusual in Italy since part of the reason fans are slashed across the buttocks is that generally people aren't charged with attempted murder if they attack someone with a weapon below waist height.

This happens every time an English team plays in Rome, but it also happens to other Italian teams supporters in Rome. The use of knives by Italian hooligans isn't common but does happen in both Rome and Naples. Interestingly police are saying they suspect at least one Roma fan to be involved in the attack so it seems like members of Lazio and Roma firms teamed up. It has also been suggested that anti-semitic shouts were heard during the attack so it's quite likely that this was far-right fans from both Rome clubs. The police in Italy generally do **** all to combat hooliganism, they have a similar mentalaity to many of the hooligans, they'll give fans a kicking, crack a few skulls but rarely bring charges against anyone involved unless they target the police themselves.

From the Brigada 1874 forums

I predict this to be a damp squib. There doesn't seem to be any logic behind the protest nor any idea how this will actually help the team. Everyone knew this season was going to be difficult having lost our two most creative players and gained a new boss and while things aren't going great that's just football. If some fans spent as much energy getting behind the team as they do protesting and whinging we'd have a cracking atmosphere for this game.

I agree with this, it was a shocking OG but it's not as if Warnock did it on purpose. I've never booed a villa player and never will and the actions of some fans booing their own players while they're playing is plain moronic. I think some fans find it easier to boo and criticise the team than actually get behind them.

The word going round is that the police and security services let the Al Masry fans attack the Al Ahly fans and players. Apparently the al ahly ultras have been heavily involved in the protests against Mubarak and the military government and this may have been the police giving them their commupance as they see it. There was also a fire started at a game in Cairo possibly as a show of protest at what was happening at the al masry v al ahly game.

Great to hear that the club are backing this. Another lad and I raised this at one of the past supporter consultation meetings and it's something the fans have wanted for some time. It'd be absolutely fantastic to have terracing back at VP, seats are a proven liability to your legs whenever we score, safe standing is surely going to involve a lot less pain!