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3 hours ago, villalad21 said:

Jack is the only reason we got promoted in the first place.

If we are relegated and we lose him i can't see where the creativity is coming from. All our wingers are trash

If only there was a transfer window.

2 hours ago, andym said:

I liked Vice Principals as much as Eastbound and Down. IMO Walton Goggins steals the show from McBride, and does the same in The Righteous Gemstones 

Ok I'm going to try again. I don't know why I stopped tbh!

2 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

But we haven't lost 4 of our best players. 

Samatta is better than Wesley. Samatta is better than Davis. 

McGinn and Heaton is a big loss, but McGinn is back now. There is no carpet to hide under. We have to perform, no excuses. 

 

I think people need to wait a lot longer to start making these kinds of statements about Samatta. I hope you're right that he's better than those two but he's not played many games, and a few of those we as a team have been dominated and he hasn't had a chance to do much.

Btw, it is possible for you to admit that injuries make a difference and still be against Smith. Nobody would begrudge that. There are shades of grey in the world.

5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

I think 'The Righteous Gemstones' is one of the funnier things I've seen recently. Yer man always plays basically exactly the same character in everything he does, but he is very good at it.

I love Danny McBride. For me, Eastbound and Down has some of the best comedy moments I've ever seen. I barely got an episode into Vice Principals though—I should probably give it more of a chance.

I believe I might have been late to the party with Succession, but for me it's up there with The Wire. It's so good.

Another HBO plug—The Righteous Gemstones is great too.

1 minute ago, PaulC said:

So why call it a pandemic? My attitude is based on the current health crisis that we are going through and the fact that many people including myself have observed the lockdown rules to the letter. Over 100,000 people attended the protests marches over the weekend so going by govt records 1000 or so would have been infected and the potential for spreading it will have been great. We could many more lives because of this. That I am against!

I agree that the timing is bad. I guess the protests must be a big deal if it transcends even a worldwide viral pandemic. At the end of the day people are risking their lives and the lives of others—but the issues they are protesting are deep-rooted and hundreds of years old. They're not issues that have appeared on a whim, but have been felt through multiple generations. That means something too. 

33 minutes ago, PaulC said:

I'm sorry but  Joshua and  others are hijacking the virus pandemic to promote Anti-Racism. its a separate thing and it winds up a lot of people. 

Why do you think this? It doesn't seem to reflect what's going on at all. Everything began after a policeman murdered George Floyd and it was caught on video. Really it seems to be a protest in spite of the virus, and a protest to promote anti racism after a particularly shocking incident that can easily be read in a racist context...one incident of thousands. 

I wonder, honestly, do you think you'd probably have the same attitude to the overall message even if there was no pandemic? 

9 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

 

So, did he say don’t buy from whites?

( I’ll confess I had to look up who he was, clearly boxing isn’t my thing)

 

The whole thing is here. I'd say he's talking about racists, as in 'Don't use racists'/the establishment's shops and invest in your own'. I don't think it's very well written though: the use of 'their' isn't very well linked to its antecedent, and I'm not really sure what shops he's talking about. But he does many times before that talk up the idea of no-racism, so saying 'Don't shop in white shops' wouldn't fit. I think it could have been written better.

51 minutes ago, supermon said:

Guilbert or Elmo as RB? I feel like Guilbert, for all the gusto he has bombing forward has no real end product, and has been targeted a lot by the opposition. I'm leaning more towards Elmo as he may be a better option to whip balls into the box, dare I say it may be more effective defensively? 

I may be wrong, just wondered what others think

Whichever one wasn't defending here: https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2020/06/08/kamil-grosicki-shares-footage-of-first-goal-for-west-brom-in-2-2-v-aston-villa/

He could be the wildcard. 

24 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said:

He is just being honest. Most players wouldn't want to stay if you get relegated, but it probably depends if other clubs are willing to pay you more wages.

Meh. He has been ok, flashes of promise but too lightweight so far. I'd rather he stick around for another year to see if he improves but I wouldn't be gutted if he was sold off either, but we will lose lots of twitter followers which is of course the main thing in modern football.

You say OK. I can't help but look at our position of 19th, how shit we've been for large amounts of the season, and how shit he has been in particular in a shit team and conclude that he's worse than OK, particularly at this level. He's not OK for a prem team. He's been a non-entity bar a few goals that he didn't create and I also struggle to see what he'd achieve in the Championship.

Though I imagine the tweet is probably not a fair reflection of the truth, as usual.

3 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said:

....................Samatta........Davis........................

This. Do this Dean and never play Trezeguet.

3 minutes ago, romavillan said:

5 subs is a big advantage for the top clubs isn't it? Means weaker squads will be needing to compete for 90 mins against constantly fresh world class players. Liverpool/City etc could swap half the team and not have a drop in quality. Bottom half of the table can't do that.

It's **** bullshit because it's blatantly unfair. To add this rule on top of the (understandable) no-fan rule is just making thing worse for us.

4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

It makes sense to me. Maybe there is a reason they wat everyone at home that none of us know about? Or maybe they are just discreetly going back to the herding tactic that failed without saying so to avoid criticism? Their logic being  lets let the older people or people with health issues die and the ones who have strong immune systems will survive. Sounds extreme but i dont trust these lot as far as i can throw them.

Provides more money for them and gets the economy back. Its very shit but thays why i believe they manipulated them. I think foreign countries  have definitely not been honest with their numbers. Lets be honest would you travel to Bulgaria for example if they reported 40,500 deaths? Im obviously over inflating the number but you get my point i hope

The UK is a foreign country too by the way.

Just now, Demitri_C said:

I should have inserted "media/government" in my initial post. The media is a tree of the governments anyway. But my point was i do believe the numbers are being manipulated by other countries so i do not believe we are 3rd highest worldwide.

But that is very hard to prove as we have to put trust in what the government/media tell us.  As this site is so anti-tory im suprised so many people believe the crap they tell us !

Well, it's not going to be any better than they say.

At the moment when they want to lie about something (e.g. amount of people tested in a day) and they don't like the answer they just omit it and hope there are enough fanboys out there to quash any criticism.

11 minutes ago, PaulC said:

I think the govt of our country are a lot more transparent than many other countries. I bet Brazil and Russia have had more deaths than us 

Our government seems to be trying out a lot of Russian tactics when it comes to their information delivery. There's an example every few days of them making shit up.

34 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

I also think its wrong to suggest the media influenced everyone's decision in not liking him. I simply do not accept that that much of the UK population voted against him purely based on what they read.

He has to take responsibility for his performance i am afraid.

It's naive to dismiss the affect of the media. 700 billion a year is spent on advertising every year in general—getting your message out there and seen is one of the most powerful ways to influence people. There were relentless negative articles from 60% of press for years, the majority low-level bullshit. There was so much bs out there and a lot of people were parroting it without even thinking about it. Personally I was lukewarm on him, but I'd take him any day of the week over the empty bullshitter in charge now.

8 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

But then the same can be said about people saying the uk has the highest death rate in Europe believing what the media are saying so whats the difference? You cant say media influence how people vote then saying aomething else being fed to us ny the media!

None of us know if the figures are being manipulated by other countries. Mexico for example they are having massive issues i suspect the death toll is a lot higher than beong reported and i think the same with some of our european friends 

A lot of obvious rags for years put out a relentless campaign to undermine Corbyn. I'm not sure it's exactly the same thing.

It's lucky he got sick at the beauty spot and not somewhere else along the route. That would have at least been nice for his child and wife along for the test drive, although I'm sure he was too sick to enjoy it himself. It would have been a bit of an unexpected birthday stroke of luck for his wife too. Shame that after Cummings was so sick she didn't offer to drive back from the castle though the selfish so and so. I guess going 30 minutes and having to stop at a beauty spot because you felt so sick might have been a failed test of their driving suitability for most people, particularly when he said he'd also had problems with his vision, but Cummings is different to most, so it's good he was so resilient that he then concluded he was right to drive 200 miles to London. It's good people do tests like this the day before they're due to drive back too, on a sunny day, on his wife's birthday. It would be stupid to do it on the day he was planning to leave.

35 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

Some of you may argue the women getting handed the better deal

 

I think you hope they'll argue and that's why you're posting it 

7 hours ago, KentVillan said:

In fairness to Reina, the lockdown in Spain has been very intense. I have friends in Spain, who definitely aren't right-wing, who say Spanish lockdown laws have been too extreme - locking children indoors all day long for weeks on end hasn't gone down well.

So cut him some slack, please, unless you genuinely understand the situation yourselves. Let him Tweet what he wants to Tweet.

Having said that, I think he's a pretty shit goalkeeper these days, and I can't wait for Heaton to return.

Mate, Vox are odious. Reina is a fool for buying into their nonsense. I live in Madrid and the lockdown has been saving lives—to go from where we were to where we are now is night and day. We can all symapthise with difficulties, but there's very definite context.

**** Vox and their lame brand of sorry nationalism.

11 minutes ago, screwdriver said:

Konsa's reaction to his goal being poached by mings tells me all I need to know about this dud.

The guy was devastated.

We'd thrown the kitchen sink at relegation rivals and finally penetrated in the last minute it don't matter who scored everyone should have been euphoric.

There's always one counting the small change

 

Was going to say something then saw the poster.