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4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

I get your point but suso and smith built this poor squad.

Smith has got so lityle out of them. Even grealish and mcginn have looked dog shit under him

In another post you said we still spent **** all? Building a squad from scratch in two months to compete with 19 teams with established squads is not easy. Everyone else was in a better position than us when we were promoted by an insane margin. How many times has it happened  to other teams like it happened to us this pre season? It can't be many and the warning signs were there and we all knew it.

We had about eight players.

Just now, useless said:

I remember at the start of the season and people saying how poor the premier league was and outside the top six or seven teams the quality wasn't that much better than the top end of the championship. Certainly I can't remember anyone saying that we'd need a miracle to stay up, can remember most getting excited by our signings and praising Suso for how well he'd done with that £140m.

 

This literally means nothing. Football fans getting carried away? What a shocker. 

3 minutes ago, rodders0223 said:

Would Deano have got anything out of Benteke? Would he have improved him? Gave him belief? Service? 

No. Probably not.

Why wouldn't he have? You've just decided he wouldn't have but you don't know. Nobody knows.

The thing with Benteke was he pretty much made his own goals anyway.

Anyway, I'm out of here. I think I'll leave you all to twist stats and sensationalise everything. See everyone in August or September or whenever football starts again. 

2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

Atrocious from suso and smith. Both a pair of utter clowns 

That graphic doesn't really tell the whole story does it? We all know how our squad was before the season started. 

1 minute ago, villalad21 said:

Lambert kept us up. Smith didn't.

So he also performed better at Villa. Got results in a much harder league.

Take Benteke out of that team and how well do you think Lambert would have done?

Getting promoted last year from where we began was a big achievement. I'm willing to stick by him. This year, with the lack of quality in the squad bar 2/3 players, we were always up against it. Watford, as I said above, have quality up front that we could dream of. They could easily not have beaten Norwich without Welbeck's overhead kick. Sarr, £30million, scored two against Liverpool, and Deeney, a proven performer in the prem got one with Welbeck on the bench. We are a makeshift team, but that's a direct consequence of Tony Xia.

1 minute ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

I want to like Smith for the obvious reasons and it'd be great if he could have a cracking at the Championship and ace it.

However the lack of passion, drive, mental toughness or whatever you call it as a worry. When Watford have grinded out a win against Plop we have lost to the likes of Bournemouth. We haven't taken a scalp off a top team and we have given up 19 points from winning positions. 

Villa have had a soft underbelly for about a decade or so now, since O'Neill I guess.

Answer: phone Rafa and give him whatever he wants.

Look at Watford's strikers then look at ours. If we had Deeney and Welbeck in our squad we wouldn't be 19th right now.

11 hours ago, supermon said:

Would be useless coming up with those players, they don't have the bottle to stay up. We need a team that can gel together and play good football together and know each other. This will take time, the team needs gutting again and it will take time to get the team back up, plus new manager is required

That team doesn't need gutting. Not at all. It needs development by adding in the right players. There's a core of players that will do well in the Championship that we can add to. And of course we'll add to them. If/When the inevitable happens, I don't feel we're in as bad a position as last time.

3 minutes ago, R.Bear said:

I genuinely dont know what he actually does. Other than score that goal in the LC final, I cant remember him existing.

I was saying this back in the day. Everyone was so sure he was better than Wesley. He might be OK if he had some more chances, but he's really barely done anything. Davis is so much better, but there's no point bringing him on now. Save him for Palace.

I'll say something positive about him. Judging by Jota's appearance against Liverpool, he's better than Jota at least. That's all I have.

1 hour ago, cb_82 said:

Just looking at a couple of others as examples of people who have escaped

Sunderland 2014 - Last 6 games they had Chelsea/Man United/Man City away and took 7 points

Wigan 2011-12 - Won at Arsenal/Liverpool and beat United in last 9 games

Its been done but you cant write off thees games as to hard, you have to get something 

The gap between us and the top teams now may be bigger than the equivalent back then I feel.

58 minutes ago, Mjvilla said:

Predictably ridiculous reaction in here last night I see. I actually saw it as a half decent night. Bournemouth and Watford were our more realistic rivals. I think west ham will finish above Brighton yet. Brighton were terrible against Man Utd (didn't press, close or lay a finger on man utd really) and are not out of it yet in my opinion. 

I saw it as a half decent night because probably our closest rivals got an absolute tanking at home. Bournemouth are in a worse position than us imo. That's Norwich and Bournemouth who I think will go. Then between us, Watford and Brighton. I think we will go down but it isn't lost at all. 

Chelsea were chalk and cheese from their performance against us. Their passing was so crisp, they pressed us and looked a very good side against us. Last night was completely different, apart from Pulisic. They were horrible, but it might spark a reaction against Watford. Might actually be a good thing. It's the way it works. It's football.

To suggest were down after last night's result is absolutely bizarre. Nothing changed last night to me. Talking like Watford will 100% win at Norwich. They've just lost at Burnley and at home to Southampton without a shot on target. I think norwich-watford will end in a draw. Watford finish is then tougher and they will need to get some really good results. As will we. Still in the balance.

West ham still to play Watford haven't they? I think what last night's west ham win has done has given us someone to cheer in that game. We can now all hope west ham beat Watford. 

 

Inspiring. OK Come on Norwich (vs. Watford). And then West Ham vs. Watford. And then everyone else vs. Watford.

57 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said:

Why what have you heard?

Bet it's literally a tweet. Or someone read a tweet and told him what was on the tweet. Or someone saw Purslow and Smith talking together on the TV and then told him.

Apologies to avfc1982 but I think a lot of people have a bullshit alert when it comes to 'from what I gather...' type posts.

On 27/06/2020 at 16:49, meregreen said:

If he’s 23 and only started 3 Premiership games, it doesn’t say very much about his ability level does it.

He's been under contract at a Championship club until this season and pretty much injured most of the time this season.

15 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

Samatta looked awful since restart but I think he'd hit double figures.

Genuinely think he's looked the same before and the same after.

1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said:

Britain refers to England Scotland and Wales. Rodgers therefore is not from Britain in the traditional sense. Northern Ireland is a part of The UK.  Although when referring to the Northern Irish people in relation to The United Kingdom you don't say United kingdomer or kingdomish you say British. My head hurts . 

British is the nationality for people from the UK—so he'd definitely be considered a British manager—unless he thought of himself as Irish and not British. Britain is doesn't exist unless you're saying Great Britain (the island itself), which is what you were saying, and being real casual so missing the first word. 

25 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

We ain't too good with those, are we?

It depends if we have to buy an entire team or not, but we've all talked about that before and don't need to do it again. Anyway, the January transfer window in the Championship went pretty well.

8 hours ago, briny_ear said:

I see very little to suggest that if we stay up we will be better able to cope next season, so these are worrying times.

We wouldn't have to use all the same players. I believe there is a transfer window!

I got the day wrong. 

2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said:

How many times do you see crossfield balls to their right winger in acres and acres of space. He has time to bring the ball down and polish his boots before deciding what to do next. I don' think Targett is helped by having Grealish in front of him but that doesn't excuse his god awful sense of positioning. Can he not just stay at left back and mark his man?

Rant over. He'll be fine in the championship. And so he should be for £14m. Another massively underwhelming signing. 

This isn't a sign of bad positioning. If he was marking the winger all game it would be. The defence moves left or right depending where the play is and they try to minimise space between them. It's a fundamental of football. The alternative is to leave enormous gaps between your back four for players to run into and exploit.

I'm genuinely confused by this comment.

21 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said:

Is he? I remember him being distinctly average in most of the matches he played last year in the championship.

Honestly, if we have El Ghazi or Trezeguet in our team next year then we'll have failed so, so badly yet again. 

Presumably we don't want to replace our entire team again. Put it this way, replacing El Ghazi would be low in my list of priorities.

But Trezeguet—I'd value him at about 500k, and think he'd start being effective at around League 1 level.

3 hours ago, Dave-R said:

I'd sell all three of our actual Wingers, Ghazi, Trezeguet and Jota a bunch of clowns they are.

Smith's stays I want to see the end of Wingers or at most much much better than those three join Villa.

El Ghazi is fine for the Championship if needs be. But the other two need replacing.

3 hours ago, Demitri_C said:

The biggest headless chicken ive seen at the club in years. Never seen such a quick player so ineffective. 

His fitness is actually shocking as well. Get rid in summer.  Big time flop

I don't think he's quick at all. He's incredibly averagely paced, which is an enormous problem. He's quicker than Jota mind.

52 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

I can remember him coming on in the 0-0 v West Ham so he was fit around September at least.

I think he got injured a few times. Smith likes him and never fancied Kodjia, yet we saw Kodjia a lot.

Today's the day Keinan. You can do it.

Time to arrive.