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This is the most Smith has pissed me off.

NOW. Sub. NOWWWW.

5 minutes ago, osmark86 said:

The only problem is that Davis is allergic to scoring.

Compare them. One is more useful.

Samatta loses the ball and can't score.

Davis keeps the ball, brings others into play and can't score.

Just now, quazzie goat said:

Davis and El Ghazi on at half time please. 

It's so obvious. Everything breaks down with Samatta and Trezeguet. Every time. I can't take it.

1 minute ago, Lord Willard said:

I'd be tempted to bring on Davies and El Ghazi already

This. We'd be a passable team if we had even passable quality in place of Samatta and Trezeguet.

Also, Wesley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samatta.

I can't take watching Trezeguet **** up these great positions over and over again. We've been in good positions.

Samatta touches the ball in good positions and loses it every time. Same with Trezeguet. This is our problem. The quality in attack is woeful.

I thought he looked good against Palace. I think he's been getting more up to speed over the course of this post-lockdown run of games. It's good to have him back in the team.

48 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

Some people will indeed view the new  statue as the ideal monument to the symbolic act of toppling the statue of a slave trader  , but  (caveat I've not followed the BLM debate that closely ) weren't there some questionable objectives with the BLM movement that are not really something a lot of  people would feel comfortable commemorating  ?  So , some of those people, who aren't all gammons and racists ,who were probably ambivalent are now potentially going to be a bit irked by it ? Jen Reid might just be your run-of-the-mill activist  and not a diehard Marxist ,  but I'm sure someone  is currently trawling through her Internet history looking for dirt.

On the general debate , I think it is  a mistake to automatically adopted this default position that everyone objecting to the statue is a gammon or a racist  ... My view has been that the existing Colston statue was probably right to come down  , but  the way they toppled it was wrong (Its well documented I'm not a fan of mob rule taking the law into their own hands  ). The artists stunt today is quite provocative and should spark some more debate and awareness, which is a good thing,  but ultimately the statue has to come down (correctly and not carried out by a baying mob )  .... or they could  go through the process of having it approved like any other statue would be . The people of Bristol were promised a consultation of what should go on the plinth ,who knows, they might be proud of the statue and want it to stay in place.  That opinion is neither gammon , nor racist  , but in effect the conversation is already essentially fingers in the ear and la la la I can’t hear you ..quite sad really , I think its important discussions should be had .

Pretty sure there hasn't been a movement in history where people haven't tried to discredit it. That's the same thing here with BLM. At its most basic, and the reason people have been protesting, is in protest at racial inequality, against racism, and, obviously, the horrendous way black people keep getting killed by police in America. It's all of that though.

People haven't been protesting in order to overthrow capitalism (although, we should note capitalism is an ever-evolving thing, and a lot of what we see these days is exploitative and bullshit, and deserves a critical eye). But there are a lot of people who would like to make people with only half an eye on the situation think that actually BLM is anti-white (bullshit) and about communism (also bullshit—although there are people everywhere with the view that our economic system caters for and benefits a select few, and who would argue with that? Sure, capitalism generates wealth too, but there are flip sides to this. We should be able to discuss everything, all of it openly without people crying about Marxist this and that. I kept this in the brackets because, as I say, contrary to some people's desires, the issues raised by BLM are about racism.)

I'm as open-minded about this as can be. The BLM statue in Bristol is a stunt it seems? I kind of think it's way too provocative and a bit of a dickish thing to do. Of course there should be a different statue in Bristol—a statue that marks something specific to Bristol, one that doesn't depict a slave trader like he's some kind of thing to be lauded. There are a lot of options.

25 minutes ago, jim said:

Sadly I think it's too little too late.

We are relying on far too many permutations and I just can't see them all going our way. I have a feeling Watford or Bournemouth are going to pull off a shock result that will seal our fate. 

They've already had their share of them I hope!

7 minutes ago, Follyfoot said:

Which is exactly right in the context in which I posted it based on previous posts and comments on the thread

Seems I did the classic message board picking up the fag end of a conversation then. Apologies.

12 minutes ago, Follyfoot said:

Sorry, a few pages back on this very thread I said that the person responsible deserves appropriate punishment, why would my opinion have changed?
 

In addition  it has earlier been  suggested that maybe we have to hang one 12-year-old out to dry as a lesson for others in the future 

I didn't see that. I was only reacting to the sentence 'We need to be very careful as a society if that is the path some want to go down'.

I was saying it in the game. I'm not sure why Jack isn't making more noise. He looks troubled, but he needs to be raising the bar when it comes to passion. He's the captain. He's a fan. He should get it.

Pretty sure I remember him looking happy a moment afterwards though in the next bit of the celebration.

Just now, Follyfoot said:

When I first reported this I said the perpetrator should get the appropriate punishment, I find it odd that you suggest that I may not understand some action needs to be taken ??

People have commented regarding naming and shaming him on social media and much worse, Also if you look  it is suggested In just a couple of posts above this that they suspect it was an adult who made the comment, to quote ‘trying to throw a kid under a bus‘ .

All I’ve said is I hope that that does not happen, especially at a time when the subject matter is very much in the news on a day-to-day basis and so sensitive that it could provoke perceivably lead to the wrong course of a action in dealing with the matter

 

The first part of my post was a genuine question. I agree, a 12 year old does not need public shaming. Of course not. Surely nobody suggested that. If they did—yeah they are dicks.

10 hours ago, Follyfoot said:

Correct, some kids have not got a clue but grow up to be fine upstanding citizens, throwing 12 year old off a cliff is not the way to go about it. We need to be very careful as a society if that is the path some want to go down

What do you actually think is going to happen to him though to justify this fear you have? I know throwing him off a cliff is a metaphor, but I imagine he'll have a few words and that's it. He deserves it too, but we all understand that, right?

Just because we heard about it in the news doesn't make it a sign of a dark decent into extreme reactions against twelve year old idiots. 

11 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

And still put in more of a fight

Did the ref give man u a free penalty tonight? Are Southampton also an established premier League team with years of investment?

Dammit. I forgot, you literally only care about moaning about the same thing in every post.

2 minutes ago, imavillan said:

If the snake can play for Man City then Jack will stroll into that team and make a huge difference. Worlds apart.

I've said before, put him with better players in a better team and he will shine even more. He'll have more time on the ball and he'll have more passing options than he has currently.

If he's going to go i'd much rather he went to Man City. Pep will improve him no ends.

If he goes to Man City I hope he does like Benteke did on Sunday and secretly miss all his chances on purpose because he still loves us really.

6 hours ago, rodders0223 said:

Can anyone explain how Hause went from 5th choice centre back to starting every one of our crucial run in games despite being horrendously out of his depth in the majority of his appearances?

What is the thinking? Purely his ability to win headers in the opposition box?

He's played well except for two dodgy passes. He wins a lot in the air. I think he's OK.

When he scored two, I said I'd change my name to Trezeguet too if he got a hat trick. I was OKish with that miss.

His Genk show reel is pretty good. He might be struggling with adapting/getting up to speed. Benteke was strong and physical and made for the Prem when he came (Benteke being a good comparison as they came from the same team). Samatta is a different kind of player entirely. I've never been impressed tbh, but giving him a positive spin and a chance in the future. I would 100% play Davis ahead of him against Everton/Arsenal/West Ham though.

17 hours ago, Keyblade said:

Didn't see anything there to be honest. Think we'd look more dangerous with Anwar on the left. 

He got an assist and put in some dangerous crosses. He was also close to scoring. He got an assist at Newcastle too—although I don't remember much about that as I'd had a few by then.

I'm not his biggest fan and see his limitations, but he does often have a hand in us scoring.

6 minutes ago, sne said:

Man City free to play in the CL. The 2 year ban has been cancelled.

Their fine is also reduced from £30m to £10m

Oh joy!

Edit: Let's see if this was one of the conditions for them agreeing to allow the Saudis to buy Newcastle. 

Yeah I know it was a UEFA ban but these things tie together in the super corrupted world of football.

It's a horrendous bullshit decision.

21 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

His workrate against man u was good. 

He deserved that today. Fair play to him

Weirdly, I think the Man U game was his best performance for us. He looked OK.