Graham t

4 hours ago, meregreen said:

Very Little Detail

Not even close, but £ 20 to the first punter who gets it right as long as it goes to Villatalk kitty....

Don't thank me, I can't help myself.....

ATB.

VLD

12 minutes ago, blandy said:

He isn't any more is he? Isn't Starmer, for example, as you mentioned him, more popular? Whatever, Johnson's approval ratings are going down, he's getting slagged off by the tory press - ridiculed on front pages even. That doesn't augur well for him. And there's a storm coming with all the Brexit mess. U turns every week - it's like the last days of the Major Gov't, only worse and only a few months in.

Sorry , biggest majority since 1987.......and.....Prime Ministers are rarely popular during their term but suddenly become everyone's favourite at election time when the alternative becomes apparent.....as has just happened in the last election ( I won't tell you which way I voted, you will have to guess.....).

VLD.

Yet more deaths as the 'peaceful' BLM riots spiral out of control. Perhaps there will be another 'peaceful ' protest over these deaths?

Trump is a cert. to get in if these riots continue. 

VLD.

1 hour ago, Graham t said:

Why would they kick out the most popular P.M. in living memory....?

VLD.

It may be funny, but it happens to be a fact.

VLD.

10 hours ago, Hornso said:

Apparently Boris has hired our ex-PM Tony Abbott as your trade envoy. Keep him or dispose of him when you're done. We don't want him back.

Yes you don't keep your Leaders very long do you......,

VLD.

14 hours ago, bickster said:

It might have escaped your attention but Kier Starmer is in a different political party to Boris Johnson and won't get a chance to be Prime Minister for at least  four years. That isn't what people are envisioning happening here

Sorry Bicky, I was trying to imagine a Labour polling victory in the future, difficult to imagine at the moment but the Tories are certainly losing good will from their voters.

Regarding Rishi, that is simply bored media journos dreaming. 

VLD.

Yes, I see where you are coming from but there doesn't appear to be anyone fit to take his place. Starmer appears to be doing a fine impersonation of the Invisible Man.

Keep Smiling,

VLD.

7 hours ago, bickster said:

As posts go, this one is pathetically shit. It offers nothing, zero, zilch, nowt, nada

More I'm right you're wrong buffoonery without actually saying why.

It seems like you have a hunch and you're sticking with it because... well only you'd know that

I mean this is the Tory Party that CUT 21,000 POLICE POSTS and that is something you appear to care deeply about

Ever thought it's you that just might be wrong?

 

Keep staring into the blue abyss and seeing no reflection

WALOOB

 

Sorry gentlemen,

but 'engagement' with you only brings out the 'keyboard warrior' in some. Your abusive comments do not bother me in the slightest but denigrate this forum.

I will continue to post comments that are designed to promote sensible debate amongst the more level headed members.

Thank you all the 'good guys' who have sent personal messages of support. Frankly these should be unnecessary.

Regards,

UTV.

VLD.

11 hours ago, Stevo985 said:

I've said it before, but I think there are a lot of people who think voting Tory is an aspiration. 

As in poor people vote Labour, and rich people vote Conservative. 

So voting Tory is almost like you've made it. You're rich enough to vote Tory.

Not quite me old cocker...

Most people who are 'rich' were aspirational first.....

Good try though.

As Eric Morcambe said...

All the right words, but not necessarily in the right order...

VLD

Blimey, you are a sad and bitter lot on here aren't you. Just take a look back at your posts.....the same individuals 

9 hours ago, Wainy316 said:

I don’t know which are more dangerous.  The ideological Tories that are knowingly trying to keep people down or the idiot Tories because there’s so effing many of them!

Maybe 'they' are right and you are wrong?

Keep smiling,

VLD.

19 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

To be honest with you, it's really hot and I'm not in the mood, but thank you for answering this post and we'll take it from here.

It seems like an entirely reasonable shorthand to me to say 'I was stopped by police' instead of 'the car I was in was stopped by police'. I don't know what you think this gotcha proves, but it really doesn't prove anything at all. It is not important to her point in any way whether she was driving the car, or somebody else was, since the driver was black and she is arguing it is an part of a pattern of institutional racism around stopping black drivers.

It's not a pleasant experience to be stopped by the police, and it is not unreasonable to expect there to be a reason for that unpleasant experience to happen. I would be On Here complaining about it if I was stopped by the police for no reason. I doubt many people would just say 'oh it's fine get over it' if I did so either, and I doubt whether you would accuse me of 'playing the victim' in that case. She has since stated a statistic that 85% of car stops of black people lead to no further action:

. . . which certainly doesn't seem like a very effective thing to be doing, when it is also unpleasant and invasive.

Seems like you could potentially integrate that fact a little more fully into your view of the situation to be honest.

Well, firstly if 'mistakes' are not to happen again then lessons need to be learned, which does not happen with just 'moving on', and secondly you yourself just stated that the police 'admitted they made a mistake', so she isn't 'playing' the victim, she quite literally *is* the victim of that mistake.

Spoken like somebody who never has to worry about being stopped or harrassed by the police for no good reason.

Hello Hanoi,

Thanks for the reply,

2 things to add, yes I have been 'stopped' by the police, Removed Comment

It has now become apparent that all the car windows were heavily tinted so the officers could not see what colour the occupants were.

Always best to believe the police in a case like this as I have alluded to in the past ALL politicians have agendas.

VLD.

9 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

What points have you raised?

You could always re-read my posts...

Here's another point to consider.....In the first line of her twitter account she maintained that 'she' had been stopped by the police.

She hadn't, the driver of the car was stopped by the police, the fact that Butler was in the car was irrelevant to the police.

All politicians have 'agendas' it's what they do, she has seized an opportunity to play the victim here. What exactly did the police do that was so upsetting? They didn't exactly manacle her to railings did they?

The police admitted they made a mistake, for heavens sake let's move on and let them do their jobs without 'grandstanding ' politicians playing the victim.

As I have said before,

'How can I help you officer' is the correct stance when addressing our heroes in blue.

Hope this helps,

VLD.

Just now, HanoiVillan said:

A lot of big conclusions for someone who hasn't seen the video. Might I venture to suggest that you were absolutely never going to come to any other conclusion than the one you have reached.

I could say exactly the same to you.......

Think before you post please, ( I know it's late I suppose),

and , for heavens sake please try to answer some of the points I have raised....

VLD.

1 hour ago, bickster said:

No more people have called you out for talking bollocks again

1 hour ago, tonyh29 said:

Is it written in crayon ?  

Not exactly intelligent contributions then........

please try harder,

your friend

VLD.

6 minutes ago, bickster said:

Prove it, even Julia Hartley-Brewer seems to have accepted that this isn't true as evidenced in her above tweet

Well, I would believe Ken Marsh over Butler myself.......

Regarding your language.....

It does you no favours and will simply detract from any point you are struggling to make,

VLD.

P.S. 

I am getting personal mail from guys on here who support my point of view, I feel if you stopped being so aggressive this might encourage them to post on here. A discussion is always more interesting if there is more than one viewpoint don't you think?

Keep Smiling 

VLD.

2 minutes ago, bickster said:

No more people have called you out for talking bollocks again

Is that it?

I would like to promote a discussion on this incident if you would like to engage me,

no need for foul language old chap,

we are all friends on here....

VLD.

1 minute ago, cyrusr said:

What the convicted criminals that chased the terrorist out of the rehab convention he was attending, not the police? Absolutely agree, they were wonderful and a credit as to the rehabilitation system. Not sure that relates to @tonyh29 point though.

I am not saying the police are blameless ( who is ? ). 

I firmly believe that the police do a great job under difficult circumstances. 

It is true that Butler has refused to show the complete filming of the stop. As I have said , this shows a different picture altogether ( apparently) ,the head of the police federation is in discussions with his superiors in an attempt to show the bodycam filming of the whole incident.

Maybe you simply believe a Member of Parliament wouldn't be untruthful.....

VLD.

Gone quiet on here hasn't it.......

Its called sacrifice guys,

VLD.

Hi Tony,

they are part of the brave body of men and women who  ( unarmed ) attempted to disarm the terrorists on London Bridge.

Such heroism is soon forgotten isn't it?

Some died on that day just doing their duty....

VLD.

1 minute ago, bickster said:

The shortest way of answering that is that it is demonstrably bollocks

Why?

It isn't clever to swear, quite the opposite.

please analyse my observations and then post again...

VLD.

8 hours ago, bickster said:

The only way it can be stopped is if the Police desist from stopping and searching people of colour based only on the idea that they aren't white (which is backed up by the statistics)

Incidentally Dawn Butler has refused to release , all of her recording of the police stop ( which was of the driver, not her ). She was apparently abusive, rude and generally uncooperative. 

She wanted the attention, typical 'victim' behaviour.

The police are the 'victims ' here.

Heroes to a man, I for one, am proud of our boys and girls in blue.

VLD.

If we tried to sell either Davies , Samatta or Wesley to a Premier team then I doubt we could give them away. That tells you all you need to know about their prospects for another season in the Premier.... Get rid now .

VLD.

Frankly we could lose all our strikers at the club and we wouldn't miss them. A strikers job is to score goals....ours don't.

Regards,

VLD.

Hi Velo,

sorry I can't help you much with info on 'Red Robbo ' as I was transferred to Longbridge from Solihull ( SD1 ) just after he was sacked ( as I remember ) after a riot in the factory where cars were damaged and security personnel were attacked.

Regards,

VLD.