BG_Villa_Fan

Agreed. This is embarrassing.

We can fill 600 pages more with 'I hate Phil Thompson' only

I hate Phil Thompson with a passion, his name should never be in the same sentence with Aston Villa. Still hope this is not true rocket polisher

Edit : whatever

VdV is certainly a good player, albeit past his best IMO, but when Wenger or Mourinho get rid of players, there is always a good reason why.

Nah, I don't believe any ITKs, you're most likely wrong as well

lol from Luis Fabiano to Ryan Babel in a day?! I know we're in a pretty strange situation ourselves but this is hilarious

lets assume, that we cannot get Moyes, Hughes or Jol. IF not KM who would you take? It's strikes me that some people would be happy with anyone but KM. Name names as your alternative, so we can see how they smell Just like when we can't get Bent or Huntelaar, we settle for Heskey

I'd be happy if all of the Jimmy money go to Everton as a compensation for Moyes and there are no new signings this season. Doubtful though.

The piece was written by RichardCanning. Sorry, missed it.

Totally agree, BOF. I have always thought that in order to break into the top 4 we'd need 2 things to go our way - one of the sky 4 to have a bad season ( according to their standards ), coinciding with Villa overachieving. Let's not kid ourselves - we haven't had a squad good enough for top 4, we've been in the battle because of the good foundations, strong spine and team spirit, not because we've had the class to even be in that fight. We just couldn't overachieve enough to crack the door open, but we were never deserving to be there, based on the quantifiable things - revenue, class, ability to attract players and sponsors, etc. Last summer we lost our captian in Martin Laursen through injury, our previous captain, Barry and a very important defensive player - Bouma. Arguably 3 of the top 5 performers we had until that point. Few thought we'd be able to push on and become even better but we did. IMO this was an extremely overlooked achievement. We did it not because we had bought top class replacements, but through team spirit, blood and guts, not class. Then Man City came and we know what happened. Obviously we can't compete with their spending power and IMO by losing O'Neill we've lost the man who built this squad and who was able to consistently get the best results out of the quality we had. Thus losing the one thing that we've had over our rivals - commitment and team spirit. I understand the man has a lot of flaws, but no one could blame the team for not giving all they had week in week out. Now, the replacement manager will be up for a difficult job to match and exceed Martin's achievements. Not because they wouldn't be good enough ( don't want to get into a fight over who the better manager is ), but because they would need the time to rebuild the squad according to their vision and we don't seem to have the needed funds to do that.

Somewhere in the 200 pages John Barnes' name must have poppud up, no?

A perfectly reasonable question one would think for a RB asking why he is playing at LB! If this is true then it's ridiculous.... I want a manager who listens & learns rather than one who can't bear for anyone to dare ask him a question and simply HAS to do everything HIS way or not at all. Don't worry, soon we'll have a manager who will NOT want things to go HIS way and will be happy with whatever the board says, see the Davies treatment, for which O'Neill got a lot of abuse, it now seems it wasn't HIS decision after all. I bet many other decisions haven't been MON's.

I still think Davies isn't highly rated here after the mare against Vienna. Kev Mac selected the team and thought even with a knock Clark was the better option and proved wrong. It was his mistake and he admitted it. I can't see a scenario where Lerner is on the phone telling not to pick certain players as to me that's just ridicolous. It's not ridiculous at all, it's the reality of the situation and I admire you for not seeing the signs. Will you still believe it is ridiculous if Davies doesn't feature in any league game for AVFC anymore? Admittedly, I'm not Davies's biggest fan at all, I don't rate him that much, but not even on the bench again? Basically we have a player who's about to play his 3rd career premiership game and first away from VP playing with a knock and we don't name our only other CB, a 10million one, who is perfectly fit even on the bench?! Come on, surely it's not rocket science to see what's going on at Villa.

Overreaction much? There are plenty of reasons why Jol would come to Villa. Ajax have money issues themselves and will probably be selling their big names if they can't beat Kiev. Today was a blip I'm sure of it. We move on and the sky hasn't fallen in yet. Not an overreaction at all. I don't expect Villa to contend for top 4 this season anyway, so no. Why do you think Davies wasn't even on the bench today, again? When the board start to interfere in the club's footballing side, that's it for the club.

Why would Jol leave champions league Ajax to come to 0-6 Villa, where there's no money to be spent, where the best player's been sold to an alleged rival,where wages have to be reduced and where the board openly interferes where it shouldn't - Milner/Ireland , Davies, etc. I'm sure Jol would laugh at this and stay as far away as possible. Btw, I feel very bad for Kev Mac. The man never asked for this shit and will now get so much undeserved abuse.

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Looks like the decision for not playing Davies in the Prem, because of his contract hasn't been a MON decision after all. Wonder how many other decisions haven't been MON's.

General, Did MON really negotiate the incoming players' wages? If true, then would the newly appointed manager be responsible for this as well?

Judging by Lerner's track record appointing managers/coaches for the Browns I dread to even think about it... I would hope for someone charismatic and likeable, like zola, as I don't expect much success on the pitch anyway.

Very lucky draw indeed. Congrats I guess...

Indeed. Exclude that one season for Blackburn and Heskey's the more prolific striker for their careers. Amazing!

Unfortunately this forum's rules are pretty tight to allow me to properly address your post, no matter how much I'd like to.

Can't describe how happy and proud I am to see most Villa fans stay behind the club and the manager in a situation like that.

It's a good thing to read last year's poll. Gives perspective and explains a lot.