Paddywhack

I'm actually hearing that when we were 0-2 down against QPR the players man management themselves. Makes sense consider McLeish just sat there with a facepalm while the players were 100 times better without his relegation instructions with telling the players to 'get back' 24/7.

Give it a rest mate

Room for one more lads?

People that sit in the aisle seat on a full bus, meaning others can't get to the window seat. That or leave their bag on the seat next to them. Pure ignorance and inconsideration for others.

Sorry I'm quoting myself and this should probably be in the picture thread but I just saw this.

"There are people on here that would rather see us lose every week to save their own face. They would also like to see McLeish lose every week and lose his job rather than be successful".

Do you really believe this?????

I want McLeish to succeed and make Villa great again. I also want Sandra Bullock to be my sex slave.

However, neither is very likely to happen but that doesn't mean I hope that it doesn't.

Like I said speaking to others at the game on sunday, as much as you don't think its true, it is! And these are fans that travelled 4 hours to newcastle. To me finishing bottom half is failing and same for others, a bottom half finish is unacceptable so thye would be happy for us to do that to give reason to get rid of AM.

Well that is sad.

I want McLeish gone because, in my opinion, he is a poor manager and not suited to AVFC. I would love to be proved wrong and for him to be very successful but again, in my opinion, I don't believe it will happen.

I will never want Villa to lose and flounder just to save face and get rid of a manager.

I can only assume, rightly or wrongly, that those people you have spoken to have become so disenchanted (and that's not difficult to understand) that they are now of this mindset.

I think maybe the people Ive spoke to mean they'd rather we finish 17th and have mcleish sacked rather than have a few years of mediocrity. Understandable I guess, but personally I just couldn't ever hope for a villa loss.

Nobody wants to see McLeish doing badly. McLeish doing badly = Villa doing badly.

Well that's what I would have thought, but I've spoke to a handful of people who do and I'm sure there's some on here.

As I say, I don't get it. :|

I must be one of a select few that genuinely wants AM to be successful but it's plain to see that since day one when he walked into this club he was facing a losing battle.

Although they'd never admit it (not that I blame them), there are people on here that would rather see us lose every week to save their own face.

They would also like to see McLeish lose every week and lose his job rather than be successful. I don't quite understand that mentality.

Anyway, back to off topic for me.

It really is not normal - wins should not be regarded as a frigging treat for the fans when they eventually do happen. We get the bullshit articles about so and so turning the corner, or so and so promising more goals, consistency etc etc.... It's a load of bollox. Winning should be standard for Aston Villa, not a relief for the week before we go and lose again

:?

That's completely not the point I was making. My point was it's not a crime to enjoy a win. You would think coming on Villa Talk after a win would be great, but it isn't. It's full of moaners, grumps and nobheads waiting for the next loss so they can spring this 'I told you so' bullshit.

Some people want him to rebuild next season to see what he could do. Madness, they're asking for relegation and I won't have sympathy for those fans.

I won't forget when we won against Wolves quite alot of fans came on here defending him and were treating that result as a cup final. Outrageous.

1 win out of 4 league games is the best he can do. That's his ceiling. It shouldn't even be acceptable this club. Fans should be ashamed of themselves for even making any excuses for him. I don't wanna see a repeated performance if we get a scrappy win against Wigan (if we're lucky that is).

It must get tiring knowing everything and being right all the time.

It must be tiring defending McLeish all the time when you know you're running out of options.

There's a difference between defending McLeish and having a balanced, reasonable view on him. Does every last little thing he does annoy you? Do you honestly believe he is the worst possible person to be in charge?

I'm not his biggest fan either. I'll criticise him if we lose, but then I'll give him credit if he pulls a win out the bag. Surely that's only fair? I don't just say, 'It was a fluke, he'll lose the next game'. Then if he does indeed lose the next game (everytime so far, I know...) I won't say 'told ya' so', because I think that attitude stinks and also gets a bit predictable and boring.

We're not getting many wins at all at the moment, we all know that. So don't slag people off for enjoying them and being positive whenever we do. It really isn't 'outrageous', it's actually quite normal.

Some people want him to rebuild next season to see what he could do. Madness, they're asking for relegation and I won't have sympathy for those fans.

I won't forget when we won against Wolves quite alot of fans came on here defending him and were treating that result as a cup final. Outrageous.

1 win out of 4 league games is the best he can do. That's his ceiling. It shouldn't even be acceptable this club. Fans should be ashamed of themselves for even making any excuses for him. I don't wanna see a repeated performance if we get a scrappy win against Wigan (if we're lucky that is).

It must get tiring knowing everything and being right all the time.

All in all, letting Nike (the best option) go and appointing Macron (who?) is just a small step in the same direction as the abovementioned slippery slope.

But that's just it, I really don't think Nike are the best option. They messed us about last season, we couldn't buy the tops until November because the quality was crap IIRC.

Now Macron are offering us more money and more than likely, not a template kit.

So, personally, I think this is a step forward. A step backward would have been staying with nike in my opinion. I couldn't care less if no one's heard of Macron, hopefully they will have when we have them on our chest.

Macron will be fine, as I said before I´m in the "Rather be a big fish in small Macron pond, than a small fish in a big Nike pond" camp.

That´ll be nice for a change. Just hope we will still be in the division so taht we can be "thier flagship club" in the PL...

I was against Macron from the start, but if the numbers are true and we are getting vastly more than we did from Nike then ill go with it.

I do think the arguement that 'id rather be a big fish is Macrons small Pond' theory is a joke. Key word is SMALL!

Based off this why dont we just get relegated to League One then we can be the biggest club in the small League One Pond?

If I had 2k to spend on a gambling holiday could I

a) Go to Blackpool and be a high roller.

Go to Macau or Vegas.

I know which one id choose, Blackpool like Macron is the inferior option in terms of quality.

I think your analogy would work if we were paying to go with Macron. As it is, they're paying us more than Nike.

As for the relegation to League One thing, we're talking about a little logo on our shirts to be fair, not league postions. Not the same really.

Personally, I buy the shirt because it's claret and blue and has a lion on the chest with AVFC above it.

If, in the past, you've been buying the shirts because it looks 'smart' or has a logo of a company you think is 'cool', I think your motives are a bit weird to be honest.

No club has ever achieved anything by having a nice shirt. Besides, we haven't seen it yet.

there is no room in football for niceties.

Why don't you like my tie?

I can't regulate the temperature in my shower. It's stuck between min and max, but they're the same temperature. There is another side of the knob with temperatures from 30 to 45 on it, but I can't twist the knob over to them. There's a press down button that i would have expected to grant access to the other side of the knob, but it has no effect. Very annoying, but as I've never used the shower since I moved in 3 years ago - it's in the ensuite and I use the shower-bath in my bathroom - it would probably have been something relevant for the snag list. Now I'll have to get it fixed at my expense.

Our showerhead holder thingymajig snapped the other day meaning we have to hold it above our heads and put it down when you grab the soap or whatever. Really annoying. I'm used to 30 minute showers in boiling hot water to wake up, it's just not the same.

People that sit in the aisle seat on a full bus, meaning others can't get to the window seat. That or leave their bag on the seat next to them. Pure ignorance and inconsideration for others.

sooner everyone realises twatter is for words removed the better - players and supporters alike

morons

Think people are aware that posting when you have a cup of tea or telling people you've just got back from a steaming poo is a bit extreme, but it is a very useful tool for following news - I'd say failing to acknowledge its benefits is far more moronic!

Yep, its not much different from using an internet forum to share your views/opinions afterall.

McLiesh out. Relegation beckons.

We were playing a team who are in very good form, in 5th position and we were away from home. We had 13 shots to their 16. We were the better team for most parts. It was a good effort. What do you want!?

At least learn how to spell his name.

Am I the only one who thought we played quite well then? Deserved at least a point.

Nope, I thought we played well too. Bring on the moaners and the calls for Alex's head though.

Here's a tension sheet for you to patent and keep working on the Omm song

Nah, that's way too crypto-fascist.

In three years from now you'll want to go to the theatre. Whatever you do, don't go and see 'Run For Your Wife'.

Well, I have a few DVDs with lots of girls IN them.

I don't really, I have the internet.

Took me ages to find one to be fair. The Lake House. Mrs Paddywhack has all her DVDs in amongst mine, so there's loads, but that ones mine.

A very difficult choice, mainly because I have no idea what the starting 11 will be in June.

But I also think it's a choice that's not as important as the media hypes it up to be. I think it's more about the honour of being 'England Captain'. I've always believed if you're a leader on the pitch, inspiring in training etc. then it doesn't really matter if you have an armband on.

Although an international captain is perhaps more vital than a club captain.

I ran 11.2 miles last night, 4 miles further than any other run I've done in my life. It took 2 hours, don't know if that's a decent time or not.

I was struggling to do 2miles 2 weeks ago, I'm amazed at how fast you can build your fitness up.

To the marathon runners on here, because there's so many people running it, can you still set your own pace or do you have to pretty much stay with the crowd? Also, does it soon spread out so there's hardly anyone around you or are you constantly with fellow runners?

my mate has a nephew called Alex, named after him.

Why would you do that, let alone admit it! :shock:

The baby was born a few weeks after the cup win. I'd start telling people it was after a different Alex. Alexandra Burke or something

Yeah, it's funny how the noses are happy to see him gone. They fooking loved him last February, my mate has a nephew called Alex, named after him.

By all means, hate McLeish, but judge him on his time at B6, don't listen to blues fans. Their opinion is going to be somewhat...(I'm really struggling for the right word here)...damaged...(I need a thesaurus.)