PussEKatt

My theory must be wrong then.

I said I was not a bean counter.

I think Blackburn will overtake us but not Bolton.

Once you get on the pitch and the game starts you think only of the game and what's happening right now.

Let me get this streight.

We sing after WE BEAT ARSENAL

It wasn't particularly to do with the assassination of a German officer, it was more that the 2nd SS Panzer Division ('Das Reich') had been trying to get from the south of France to the D-Day landing zone, and had been held up and harrassed (rather brilliantly) by resistance fighters all the way. They decided they had had enough, so they totalled Ouradour and all its occupants.

Check out Max Hastings' book 'Das Reich' for the full story.

Thanks,I wil do that.The second world war really interests me. You seem to be quite clued up on the subject though ?!

Very much a lifelong interest of mine.

Mine to

McLeish is the worst manager in the PL by a country mile. We still have a half decent squad and he has managed to make them utterly useless. I for one am sick of the utter bollocks he spouts to us as fans and the media. He is completely out of his depth. We know it, he knows it, but sadly the owner does not.

Of course Randy Lerner knows McLeish is utterly inept as manager for this club. However, the foundation of his decision is not known to anyone on this board. Was McLeish just hired as a man one could easily fire in one year? That has been my opinion all along. Steady the ship and then fork him out. Then it comes to the main thing; why would Lerner have such an idea from the start?

Either he just wanted this season to be exactly that, just performing at bare minimum to stay up and probably clear up deadwood in the summer. Start fresh, balance the books a bit and lower expectations. Then fire McLeish and hire someone new who would bring some excitement back to our club, because come next summer we will enjoy everyone other than McLeish. OR, his plan was all along to sell up and in the meantime just make our prospectus more flattering to a new investor/owner. We can easily get rid of many players in the summer, McLeish could be fired in a second because no-one would miss him, the squad would be thin and thus a new manager could build his own team instantly without putting too much energy towards selling 20 players like City had to.

Anyway, I do not think McLeish will be here next season. He is simply a puppet in the process, someone who would never argue with anything and then take his hat and leave this place when told so. If a new owner came in and we had a semi-good manager on a 4-year contract they would struggle to just sack him. Let's say we had Mark Hughes on good money, and we did pretty well this season.... they would have to let him stay on - like Ranieri when Abramovich took over Chelsea. This is me hoping of course.

I am just a believer of logic, especially in business. Why would Lerner keep Villa in his portfolio when we are losing money, he is never here to see us play, Birmingham is a shithole compared to New York and everywhere else in the States where he can do business, he had struggled to get a good team after spending a lot of money and he clearly has lost interest in the whole project.

I am pretty sure he will sell up within a short period time, every factor leads to that conclusion.

- So why did we spend some money in the summer? To avoid relegation, to please the fans somewhat, to act like everything is normal

- And why would he reject claims about a takeover? To avoid media frenzy, competition from other club owners, to keep a low profile and to keep the players on their toes

Top post.

Whether or not your right...we will see.

There has to be a reason Mcleish was hired, there just has to be. I firmly believe that no man of sound mind would hire a relegated manager from your rivals who is known for poor football. There just must be some sort of reason he was hired.

You would have to be a complete idiot to hire Mcleish. A complete Cretin. Mental. Deluded. Pick one.

The only thing that worries me though is that Lerner has been doing this at the Browns for years. They are consistently an embarrasment in the NFL and have hired poor managers in the past.

You have two options really. Either,

Lerner hired Mcleish because of the reasons you stated above (easy to get rid of etc.)

or

Lerner is a complete **** idiot.

Im leaning towards the latter.

There is a third option.And its a very worrying one for us.

First off I am not a bean counter so I dont really know what I am talking about but if you see what is happening at the Browns and at Villa and put 2 and 2 together I come up with this theory.

Lerner makes his money somewhere,not at Villa and not at the Browns he MAKES money elsewhere. So the way I see it is this.

His money making company make a profit of 100 million but instead of getting taxed on his 100 million profit he claims the Browns lost 20 million so he only pays tax on 80 million.Now if Villa also lose 20 million then although he makes 100 million he writes Villa and the Browns off as a tax loss and only pays tax on 60 million.So he makes 100 million but only pays tax on 60 million...Thats one hell of a profit.

Now before anyone starts to correct me on the figures,I am not using actual figures, I am only trying to explain something ok.And as I said before I am not a bean counter, just putting 2 and 2 together.

We will have to get 7 points from 3 games for me to even think about changing my mind. At the moment 7 points from 10 games seems to be the standard we are at.

I hate clubs that buy history instead of making it.

haha, it was only the other day you were having a go at Randy for not spending shitloads of money to get back into Europe????

All the teams that qualify for europe spend a shitload of money,I cant think of one team that got to europe for **** all,so if you want to finish high enough for europe you HAVE TO spend buckets of $$$

How is what Man City and Chelsea done any different to what we did? We spent enough to finish 6th and have Europe, they've spent enough to finish 1st and have Champons League.

If we were taken over by someone that had $quillions of pounds I would be very happy indeed,then we could make Wembly our second home.But I agree with Wainy 316 the trophies would not be the same.I would prefer it if the best team won not the richest team.Having said that I did sling off at RL about money.The thing is you have to spend money to be successful in the Premier League its just that I think its a bit unfair that some club owners have pockets with no bottom to them ?! :evil:

It wasn't particularly to do with the assassination of a German officer, it was more that the 2nd SS Panzer Division ('Das Reich') had been trying to get from the south of France to the D-Day landing zone, and had been held up and harrassed (rather brilliantly) by resistance fighters all the way. They decided they had had enough, so they totalled Ouradour and all its occupants.

Check out Max Hastings' book 'Das Reich' for the full story.

Thanks,I wil do that.The second world war really interests me. You seem to be quite clued up on the subject though ?!

I dont know how to do a link so try this instead.

Type into Google "Oradour-sur-glane" without the quotes.

Its a town in France,during the war the resistance killed a high ranking german officer so the SS came over a couple of days later and wiped out the whole town.The germans lined all the men up in the town square and shot them.They locked all the women and children in the church and set the church on fire.The french have kept the town exactly as it was that day in 1943 as a memorial to the people in the town.These pictures are how the town looks today.I think it's very interesting,what do you think ?

What get's up my nose is the way Man C fans start crying or looking really down cause they are behind or losing a game,I mean they have won virtually nothing since about 1958 so you would think they would be used to losing.

Tevez sets up 85th minute winner, cheeeeeeeeer!

The best result as far as I am concerned would be if they both lost.

I hate clubs that buy history instead of making it.

A policeman patrolling outside the BC ground sees two people climbing over the wall

So he makes them climb back in

Why has it cost us so much for managers ? sureley it would be better buisness to hire a manager on a 1 year contract with the option to renew it for a longer period if he was any good.

That's not realistic though, and very few managers (if any) would accept that, so you'd severely limit the field of candidates.

I would say that the manager we have is from a list of severly limited candidates.

Seriously though that means that the club sign a contract worth squillions of pounds for a manager without giving him a tryout first ? ! The system needs to be changed

Two gays are talking about giving up smoking.

#1 This is so hard I dont know if I can go through with it

#2 Why dont you do what I do, every time I feel like a smoke I suck on a lifesaver

#1 Its allright for you, you live by the beach

Vegetables are deadly

A survey was done in America and they discovered that out of 1,000 people that have died recently 999 of them had eaten vegetables in the week leading up to their death ?!

Don't be so stupid!

There's no way 99.9% of Americans eat vegetables

I want to know how they surveyed 1000 dead americans

If I recall correctly, that spider stat was just made up by a radio DJ somewhere to test if people would believe made-up facts. Though I could be wrong.

After all, how on Earth would anyone know they'd ate a spider asleep...

If you live in Perth and swallow a spider you will know,some of them can be quite large,

In Perth, if you are a spider you swallow 8 humans in your sleep.

Thats close enough to be correct

Do spiders sleep though? I heard that ants don't.

I dont know, I dont want to get close enough to one of those BIG ones to find out

Vegetables are deadly

A survey was done in America and they discovered that out of 1,000 people that have died recently 999 of them had eaten vegetables in the week leading up to their death ?!

If I recall correctly, that spider stat was just made up by a radio DJ somewhere to test if people would believe made-up facts. Though I could be wrong.

After all, how on Earth would anyone know they'd ate a spider asleep...

If you live in Perth and swallow a spider you will know,some of them can be quite large,

In Perth, if you are a spider you swallow 8 humans in your sleep.

Thats close enough to be correct

Finally!!

I've been waiting ages for someone to start a joke thread, I have one or two to share.

Go for it then

Two Irishmen are sitting at home.

Mick is doing the crossword in the newspaper and John is reading a book.

Mick: It says here old McDonald had a ?

John: Farm,old McDonald had a farm

Mick: How do you spell that

John: E I E I O

You can't scare me !

I live 12,000 miles away

The service is not 5 star over here but it is not as bad as you lot have over there by the sound of it

If I recall correctly, that spider stat was just made up by a radio DJ somewhere to test if people would believe made-up facts. Though I could be wrong.

After all, how on Earth would anyone know they'd ate a spider asleep...

If you live in Perth and swallow a spider you will know,some of them can be quite large,

3-0 Arsenal

With RvP Walcott and Chamberlin scoring

I think comparing Houllier and McLeish is a bit pointless... it's like looking at two steaming big piles of shit and trying to judge which one smells the nicest.

Fantastic analogy !

But very accurate!!

And remember we have paid 12m for all these changes in management!

We could have signed another SI for that!

Why has it cost us so much for managers ? sureley it would be better buisness to hire a manager on a 1 year contract with the option to renew it for a longer period if he was any good.

wont steam bugger the electrics?

Could do,that's why I dont want to go on it :shock: