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Welcome to "Deadly Doug ate my hamster". I hope you enjoy .... feel free to interact :-)

So, I was watching Chelsea on the old telly box at the weekend, and I think I've seen the future, or the present, or something, of where Lambert wants to take Villa - and I notice Aston Villa Review agrees with me, although I'll need to listen to the podcast to find out why .. I am listening as I type, so will let you know.....

Chelsea are, albeit at a very different level, going through the same kind of change we are. They are moving from being a physical, quite direct team that relied heavily on Drogba, to being a pass and move team playing "Wengerball", narrow 4-2-3-1,, without wingers, goals coming from all over the pitch. They've added 2 key players that make it work for them, Hazard and Oscar, who alongside the rejuvenated Juan Mata sit behind Torres and cause absolute mayhem against Premiership defences. These four sit in front of two hard running, hard tackling midfield holding players (at the weekend it was Mikel and Ramires) and the width in the team is provided by two very attack minded full backs, Ivanovic and Cole.

I think this is the way forward, and I think Lambert has given a few hints that this is the template he wants Villa to follow. First, we are playing very narrow without wingers, and trying to play through teams. Second, he has hinted that he wants to play Benteke up front on his own, and the two full backs he has brought in are slowly gaining the confidence to push forward. it seems like the players who are thriving (if thats a word you can use under the circumstances) under Lambert are those who can fit this sort of system, whereas those who dont are being quietly (or otherwise) marginalised.

I can see it working too in the long term, although we just dont have the players to make it work at the moment. If you look at the strongest team we could play in that formation you'll see a few glaring weaknesses:

Guzan

Lowton Vlaar Dunne, Bennett

Delph, El Ahmadi

Gabby, Ireland, Holmann

Benteke

Its just too lightweight isnt it? Especially in that holding midfield zone, Delph and El Ahmadi arent strong enough to hold it together. While they are both decent players, I think that Karim would be better further forward, and neither have the physical presence to dominate that part of the pitch. The other glaring weakness is that that three behind Benteke dont create enough, especially when compared to the Chelsea template.

So thats where Lambert needs to do his work.

People will say that we have wingers in the shape of Albrighton and NZogbia, but seriously, I think this way of playing with wide midfield players taking on full backs is gone, because you will get over run in midfield

As for Benteke, if you are one of those currently giving the lad a hard time, you WILL eat your words. I hope you eat them with the lad still at Villa and not being driven out by the boo boys, but one day you will see that the lad is quality. Look what he does at the front of a serious Belgium team (who play 4-2-3-1). if he can hold his own in that company and score against the likes of Serbia and Holland, then he is easily good enough for us. He will score goals, as long as the fans dont crush him as they have done others before.

What about Bent? What about him. We spent 75 minutes on Saturday playing with ten men. His time has gone, Let him go to QPR, Benteke is the better bet by far..

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My Swindon tickets arrived today in the post. Really looking forward to that!

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Its possible to be both concerned about the current situation at Villa but optimistic for the future, thats where i am, I believe in what Lambert is doing in the same way as I believed in what Houllier was doing (on the pitch anyway). I think, in the long term, we'll be fine. but it will get worse before it gets better

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Agree with this analysis and think we miss Chris Herd as a more hardened player alongside KEA.

Also thought Baker / Vlaar looked like a partnership in the making Saturday.

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Agree with Al about Baker and Vlaar. I like Clark but Baker just looks so accomplished, despite being slightly unfairly robbed of opportunities over the years.

Big fan of Herd too, it would be interesting to see him in there. What do we think of Clark as one of the two in front of the defence? Probably not tough enough, I guess. That's where the steel needs to be in such a system.

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Good question on Clark, he reminds me a lot of Barry who also moved about a bit before looking best as a DCM.

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We seem to be in a very similar frame of mind about the current goings on and our ultimate prospects Pete. Get through the hard times and there'll be better times ahead.

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I'm still a bit flappy that we can't score let alone win, and against teams we should be at least getting a point from.

Pass the Crumptons :-)

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When I was drawing this up I considered Clark and Herd in that position, with KEA where ireland is (which is where i think he'll end up) but Herd doesnt seem to be in lamberts plans, and Clark Im a little unsure of in that spot, although I agree he could end up there in time

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