CarryOnVilla

Just now, sne said:

Getting the trefoil would fantastic.

My only desire from the Adidas deal.. the Trefoil and and adidas original design 

2 minutes ago, nick76 said:

We are Claret and Blue, not Claret, Blue and Gold.  I don’t think gold should be in it at all but appreciate sometimes it can help but definitely no to anything official.

Naaa, Not an “and gold” level of introduction. Something much smaller, just there doing a job to make the claret and blue look better. 
 

part of the charm of the old round badge, is the gold elements to it. 

4 hours ago, Ingers said:

There was never a question re the Lion from me - this current one all the way, I was just comparing designs side by side to highlight (my perceived) problems with the old blob - especially when badge is smaller.

I will admit to warming to a golden lion whilst doing them, (hence two in my final 5)  - but only if there is significant Claret n Blue to ensure the gold is an addition, not a focus (in the last design the lion has been reduced compared to claret component)

I would be happy to buy merchandise with any of these designs (even if they weren't mine!) or Tash's AV Diamond - but I'm very unlikely to buy anything with the leaked horror show drop shadow on it......

In its silhouette form, the new lion wins. I’d love to see an illustration version like the “blob” one has (which I like) 

I'm also a fan of the gold Lion too, but only on the claret background.. in fact I’d love the club to introduce the gold in to our official colours… just a tiny bit for detailling. 
 

ahhh the drop shadow, I get it why it’s there, to try and add more contrast between the gold and blue, but tbh it’s not the badges biggest crime. It’s biggest crime is it’s basically the Lerner badge…. Again. Another tweek, another version of something the fans don’t “love” they may put up with it, but it’s not an “our badge” thing. I don’t think it ever was 

2 hours ago, Ingers said:

@CarryOnVilla - apologies, I didn't reply yesterday - had to go to bed down here, and 'ran out of replies' - I can only post 5 times a day as I'm a newbie! 

To answer your question - I'd pitch these design to the Villa, - as I think they fit the bill and represent Villa for shirt, media, merchandising, stadium etc.  I'd also pass on the blue AV diamond on claret background with gold lion,  from someone on here previously - Teale's Tash I think - that is a fantastic design, unique for villa designs, has heritage with the old frontage and top of old Trinity Rd fascia vibes, fairly unique (I can only think of Monchengladbach with a diamond shape) and just stands out for Villa, looked good on kit mock up and great design - doesn't say our name, but I don't think it needs to.

@Teale's 'tache - if that was your design, can you repost it please? - I can't locate it in the 240 pages of this thread.  And I hear your point on designers possibly having their hands tied - which may well be the case, Id love to hear the brief they were given!  Apologies if I came across too hard, when they are probably restricted to half a job, to tweak the rubbish we already have, to save costs, and potentially evolve one slow mutation at a time, but its so bad!....

Nice that you narrowed it down to 5… and to one lion too. You getting closer to your ideal one. 

36 minutes ago, MrBlack said:

I assume the restrictions we placed on them made it the way it was as a whole package.  It's grown on me, probably due to the success,  but it does lack vibrancy for sure. Lack of gold highlighting maybe an issue. Whatever, its definitely mistakable for others when monochrome. 

Having seen their other works and what they're capable of,  I'm loathe to place the blame on them. I'd love to see some of their concepts that perhaps stretched the brief to its limits or beyond, bet they'd be great. 

The blame isn’t on them tbh. They had a naff brief formed from a rubbish questioner made by our club. 

Asking about what design elements the fans wanted. On the surface that’s fine, but fans are nostalgic for the old round logo. And the elements voted for  added up to the old round badge

Yet, we didn’t get that badge, we got something else. Something too akin to the standard round badge design in football. 

Our club should have known the fans would lean towards the old round badge in that questioner. It should have asked questions about the feelings of each badges give us. Why we (in general) gravitate or not. 

if the brief was formed from fans words and feelings rather than poll results, we may of had something really “Aston Villa”.. probably the old badge with a cleaner lion 

31 minutes ago, MrBlack said:

Defintely does. That's why we paid Dragon Rouge a fortune to design it.

true, it’s just a shame that the fortune made the rest of the badge boring and generic. 

8 minutes ago, Ingers said:

Some Golden Lions, and Old v New lion comparisons, side by side for you all......especially @fightoffyour and @Jas10 !

Then, compared to claret lion on blue, and even some no gold options.... I still think the old Lion looks very 'slabby' or flat/tubby (almost dragon-esque) next to the new one (the 'ornamental' old lion is beyond my skills in illustrator).

As a team who are the original Claret n Blue team, I feel we need as much claret and blue in the badge as possible  - or we look very much like claret n gold or that 'bubbles' are involved as another poster said.  Curved top also helps get the font slightly bigger for the name to stand out....maybe Mr Heck knows what he's, no wait, text at the top.....

To repeat whats been said many times, its not that difficult, to get to here - if Mr Hecks offering is from a professional design agency, they are taking him for a ride....

 

Seeing both lions together, makes think I like the newer one more, it just scales better…

2 minutes ago, fightoffyour said:

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8 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

Not sure what circumstances you're referring to, but I usually do it with photos for VT, because the original is too big for the site. I used to compress and/or crop them, but I found that an easier quick-and-dirty way is to use a screenshot, as it's lower resolution. 

It’s a general circumstance thing. Generally from the non tech savvy people. Not knowing they can send the original image, so they screenshot their photo album. Sometimes with funny outcomes of them accidentally exposing other images in their album
 

People who send screenshots of the photo in their photo album… why screenshot it when it’s already in your photo album?!?!? Just send me the original image!!!

12 hours ago, MotoMkali said:

Cheeky Bid? 

I’d hope Villa will never be a club that pays £100m (or the inflation equivalent in the future) on a player, despite how big we ever get. 

Just now, Keyblade said:

What, after 6 games?

Yeah, they were flying high and looking good. Good enough for Chelsea to nab their manager. 

De zerbi comes in and carries it on, largely the same players and style. 

Or am I wrong and De Zerbi transformed them?

2 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Actually be an attacking threat and finished in a European spot?

Wasn’t Brighton on their way to that European spot when Chelsea nabbed Potter? 

I never got the de zerbi hype. I don’t know what he’s done that potter didn’t before 

25 minutes ago, Mazrim said:

I see Palace are basically touting Eze and Olise this summer. Would we be in the market for one, or both?
I wouldn't play Olise instead of Bailey, and Eze would be in stiff competition for a place in our midfield, but no doubt they'd add a lot of quality to the squad.

I feel like who ever goes in for them would need to buy both. They’re generally more effective as individuals when playing together 

16 minutes ago, Ingers said:

Great Thanks!!

So all in the right place now - sorry everyone - I'll raise my game to Unai levels moving forward....

These designs are somewhat original, but in large part draw basis and inspiration, with some tweaks (some almost copies - so acknowledgements to you all), from many posters on here, 1957 badge, previous badges, tradition, and looking at the array of modern designs across the top leagues in europe.  I feel it has to predominantly Claret and Blue (not yellow and blue) so it works on the shirt and in media as a representation of us. Current lion is far better than the blobby lion from learner (in my opinion), but back facing left and not falling over.  Star is gone - its small time - if we hope to be in the UCL in the next season(s), take it off now! Most work well on claret or white (away kit should always be white) with maybe a font colour change on some.  Apart from one these, the AV diamond with gold lion (I think by teale's tash) would be my vote rather than the drop shadow abomination..

Out of all these versions. Which one would you pitch to Villa? 

51 minutes ago, withes_shin said:

And another version (look at the bag bottom right)

If I could choose out of any official use of any of our badges, it be this one in the bottom right. But the lion flipped (obvs)

To me, it ticks several boxes

clean, simple and legible

looks like it’s been around forever (even tho it hasn’t)

can scale and still be recognisable

can be simplified and expanded for what ever the needs are

no extra faff like stars, dates or “F.C.”

Just nice rampant lion and Aston Villa 

Mad to think, with 4 games left, we still not completely out of the running for the title 

Just now, bobzy said:

Sheff Utd take the lead at Old Trafford. 

Please be archer 

9 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

 

Doncaster capped off their tenth successive win with a 4-1 win yesterday. 

Reminds me of a certain time 

20 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said:

I oddly like the mostly claret feel.

Not the gold side stripes. Either claret too or our blue.  

Or would that be too like the Luke kit

How did palace make this oversight. 
 

A club in the same country and league as them too. 

Someone in their design marketing team is a Villa fan and their notice has been handed in 

2 hours ago, HalfTimePost said:

Our branding so convoluted that other clubs laying claim to our lion

 

What was the transfer fee, got to be £100m + performance related add ons 

19 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said:

 

In the full tiktok you can see this year's away complete with the round badge and the BK8 logo to the left of our kit. If this was legitimately next year's stuff, it wouldn't have last year's away kit in it. I'm content to call this a concept.

 

Good spotting,

Also in the video, it had 2 home shirts for spurs. So I think it’s just a fan mock up of kits. 

But good on them to get the new betano logo, as well as the newer Villa badge too