A'Villan

Research 101 for the newcomers.

1. MK-Ultra
2. Operation Northwood (specific to the hijacking of American aircrafts to crash into American infrastructure to gain support for war with Fidel Castro) 
3. COINTELPRO
4. Aaron Russo interview on David Rockefeller approach and discussion
5. The Red House Report
6. Julian Assange (and maybe why he's not given a corporate media investigative journalism offer)

6 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

We live in a world where politicians lie, corporations have hidden agendas and secrets are kept.  I 100% agree.  

But I find it very difficult when people spot a small discrepancy and then blow it up to something it clearly isn't.  

For example -  There are no stars in the photographs taken on the moon. This shows it was faked in a studio. No.  It shows that a small 1970s camera strapped to an astronauts chest was incapable of taking pictures of stars because it would have needed a lengthy exposure time. 

I also find it difficult when people (let's use David Icke as an example) come up with these amazing theories with zero evidence and make millions from it.  David Icke creates content for financial gain. 

If you can come up with a specific topic I would be genuinely interested to debate it.  

But let me finish by saying that I am not picking out "conspiracy theories" as being anything unusual.  I don't believe in ghosts, contacting the dead, gods, fortune telling, witchcraft, Santa Claus or that people pay money to watch Birmingham FC. 

Truth is stranger than fiction.

I'm not sure that a debate is necessary. I don't particularly feel the need to argue any matter here. I just want to qualify that by societal standards and dogma, I am probably the least equipped to engage the discussion with any level of credibility. Which is interesting.

I have come across much evidence, and even some proof, of the conspiratorial agendas and workings that we have mentioned at surface level here. You might think I'm being dramatic or deluded here, but I am versed in this in ways that go further than research reading and YouTube video content. I was on the wrong side of it to the point I have a permanent diagnosis. What I have learnt along the way is that for every level, there's another devil. Ignorance is venomous and it murders the soul, spreading like a virus running rampant, out of control.

@Mandy Lifeboats I've spent well over a billion moments on this planet, as we do by the time we hit 30 years old. It would be quite an undertaking to convey where I sit on these matters and the specifics as to why I am that way inclined.

Then there's always the possible, what I'd call probable, that you will be unable to see it yourself even if we were to have a lengthy talk about it all. Which is all that I'm interested in. I'm not here to waste my energy or yours, anyone's with back and forth on this one if we are to assume opposing views before the talking has begun. Without me going very deep into specifics and the evidence and proof I've accumulated, and then perhaps too, it will only offer a glimpse into depths that have been muddied so they lack clarity.

4 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

@A'Villan

Thanks for the reply.   Much appreciated.  

 I would love to discuss this with you.  But "conspiracy theories" cover a wide range of topics.  

Maybe you could outline one of the "conspiracy theories" that you feel has real merit and we could discuss specific details?

I would like to make it clear that I believe 99% conspiracy theories are utter rubbish. But I accept that 1% are well justified.  

Over to you.  What is a high profile conspiracy theory that you can debate? 

The phrase "conspiracy theory" is by itself designed to throw us off the track.

We use the word "theory" with connotations of it being unproven or unsubstantiated, and therefore that we should not bother with the idea of it being credible or merited, as a consequence.

Already we have a potential for "hidden in plain sight" or "catch me if you can" essence to the language we have appropriated for the use of describing, or brushing off, some of the most important and concerning matters.

Framing in psychology is a known tool. The use of two words put together is enough to deter the average person.

Unfortunately we live in a world where conspiracies happen daily. Every minute, every moment. However the word that follows undermines this, as said above the connotations that come with it are dismissive.

This has become the common tongue, and just about anybody, well versed on the matters or not, know this phrase, "conspiracy theory" and from my experience usually associates it with someone being fruit loopy nuts.

I'll revisit this when I have some time to. Thank you Mandy I appreciate this too.

I'm a Bulls that's only briefly come out of hibernation for Rose era since MJ, Phil and the team forged their legacy.

I don't see myself tuning in unless Lonzo comes back from injury or somehow we have a PG that can lead us to playoffs.

25 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said:

Well written post . I find you way too articulate to properly engage, but within love as I know it, there’s always been a darkness. I really have questioned my relationship with my wife and I know she has the same, but there’s been times where I’ve actually been frightened of the lengths she has gone to not bring me down, because I’m the best at doing that to myself , but to make things as hard as possible for me and there’s been a very nasty streak to it. I’m many things but I don’t consider myself nasty. I struggle with the nastiness of it all. I’ve put her through a lot but I always feel like I’ve been put through a lot too.  We hate each other at times , but I feel like I never stoop to her level to verbally hurt her, although morally I go way below what she’s capable of . Really feel like I’ve been a broken man at times last few months. The good thing is we are moving in a positive direction and as long as I play ball……

I appreciate you saying @Rugeley Villa, I mean in respect to what gave the words you spoke meaning from your life's story. Thank you also for the compliment. From my point of view language and our discussions should be seen as an opportunity to build bridges and gain trust and understanding. If the way I frame my words makes someone like yourself who's just being real and open shy away from engaging because there's a barrier there, then maybe I can work on that. Thank you again.

4 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

Seriously?

You genuinely believe that? 

Yeah, I do.

I see his being a clinical psychologist with a platform to exercise his views that he is better informed than most of us, as difficult at times, certainly when I feel he gets it wrong.

I will credit him with what's highlighted though.

@Rugeley Villa mentioned something more sinister going on, and I feel the man deserves a sincere thank you from me at least.

People act like they know love, and that their behaviour and conduct is congruent and harmonious with what any sensible (the norm) human sees it as being.

Don't take this as me suggesting that life or the way anyone chooses to live it should be a certain way.

The United States of America has apparently set the standards for living, and has been granted authority as the best in leadership for some years in recent times. 93% of her history at war.

Melbourne, most livable city in the world, from 2011 to 2017. 70% of Melbourne's homeless reported sexual abuse committed against them as children.

United Kingdom, at the heart and center of today's first world. 115 suicides per week on average.

I know we have an emphasis on personal freedoms but also responsibility as key to the family structure being successful in the West.

I've kind of come to a point where unless someone wants to engage this further with me I've said my piece though.

2 minutes ago, fruitvilla said:

We need more agnosticism!

Had to google that term and I like what I see, because I feel your post is apt.

When I first encountered him I found him to be contentious almost for the sake of it, but now I see him as a very sincere man trying his utmost to spark awareness in a world that's losing touch. Oftentimes he speaks with more authority on matters than I think he should because while I appreciate his concerns and intent is from a heart that wants to contribute in a meaningful way, I don't think he's entirely across all the answers of the matters he speaks on. Which is great!! We learn by engaging what we don't know and seeing if we can't bring about greater understanding of what's true. Sitting on our hands and letting the experts and specialists do it for us is a sure way to see that society's skilled people become lesser available.

2 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

I have noticed that there are several people on here who are really into their conspiracy theories. 

I have no doubt that 1% of conspiracy theories might have some truth in them. But I wonder if someone who is into these conspiracies can answer a few questions.  

1. Why are they undertaken in the most complicated way possible? 

Examples -

I want to fake a terrorist act to justify a war.  I  could get 1 man to drive 1 truck full of explosives into a maternity hospital.  Or I could place demolition charges on 2 New York tower blocks, hijack 3 planes, fly 2 of those planes into the tower blocks and then detonate the demolition charges a short time afterwards.  

If I want to discredit a person I could raid their house and plant evidence of child porn on their laptop.  Or I could find a group of people from his past who have verifiable contact, persuade them to fake evidence of sexual abuse and hope none of them reveal the plot to frame him. 

 

2. Why are they so badly planned? 

Examples -

I want to murder a British Princess.  I arrange for a drunk driver to drive at high speed into a tunnel wall.   Of the 4 people in the car 3 died.  The one that lived wore a seat belt.  Why go to all that trouble when a seat belt could have lead to my target walking away.

911 might not have happened if 2 captains had remained in the cockpit and/or a group of passengers had fought back. 

 

3. What's the point? 

Examples -

I believe the world is a globe.  Who is gaining from me not realising its flat? 

Will Russel Brand stop raising conspiracy theories?  Even if he did, what about the million other people saying the same thing? 

 

 

 

1. Why are they undertaken in the most complicated way possible? 

Welcome to life.

I think the simplest way I can approach this is to draw attention to the point of view that a deliberate and intentional lie that's purpose is to deceive or manipulate, will not or ever be entirely false.

If you see something's bullshit, you never believe it, it holds no weight or power. Lace a lie with truths can and will lead astray and you have a powerful weapon, harmful as it may be.

Truth sets us free. It's far from sunshine and rainbows but it's power is unfathomable. You may say that's my opinion, sure, it is. If you're interested in why, then we can discuss that if we come to it.

2. Why are they so badly planned? 

They aren't. 

The ones operated by those at the top of the hierarchy or power structure in terms of influence and having people adhere and conform to a strategic plan and agenda, have their ways down to a science, almost.

Again, I'm willing to engage the discussion with you @Mandy Lifeboats or anyone with a genuine and sincere interest in bettering our understanding.

3. What's the point? 

Each to their own.

From what I've found their is a vast amount gain that allows for leverage over and against anyone who does not possess sufficient clout to compete or combat it. Spiritual and mental oppression of others with less ensues.

If the three Latin phrases on the dollar bill of the United States are anything to go by..

1. "He has approved our undertakings"
2. "A new order of the ages"
3. "Out of many come one"

Life is oftentimes down to how we interpret it, so I want to emphasis my input here is to add to a healthy and hopefully insightful discussion, and so I don't want to come across as my feelings or views being in any way above or beyond scrutiny and discernment.

I interpret those three phrases, given my life's journey and what I've been exposed to, to mean that some entities, people, are working towards an agenda they believe they have a God/Devil given right to pursue, and bring about so that it may have life of it's own.

2 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said:

I’ve got so much to say on here , so much I could add, but I just cannot be bothered going over it all . All I’ll say is things have been incredibly rough over the last few months, maybe years or even from day one, but things are going ok at the moment . I know that can quickly change. Sometimes I wonder if it’s actually love or something more sinister. 

I'd encourage anyone who feels they have the mental fortitude and emotional strength to really look upon those last two sentences and what they may mean. Ego and prejudice are among us and they do not conform to the norm.

"Getting Older, This Never Gets Old."

Sofa, so good.

2 hours ago, Roitorb said:

Optus Sports are showing this in Australia. 

Thanks so much! Legend!

I'm a subscriber so I'll be watching.

Would love to see us play Newcastle. Not sure how that'll go being in Australia and Peacock not having broadcasting rights outside of the USA. 

Deft with the left!

Welcome Moussa!

On 17/07/2023 at 22:09, PussEKatt said:

Thats why its black.I mean if it was transparent then everybody would know what is in it.

Perhaps you're having a joke. Perhaps even, you're trying to be condescending. Regardless I'm not sure if you've grasped the essence of my message.

We cannot see ultraviolet rays with the naked eye most of the time. Yet we know it exists and have spent considerable effort explaining the phenomena.

Likewise you may have a wooden chest that when closed the naked eye cannot see into, yet you know that family jewels and heirlooms reside inside the wooden walls.

From what I gather, we can't speak, at least not with any certainty, about what goes on inside a blackbox.

On 10/06/2023 at 13:43, MNVillan said:

After 15 days of treatment, I get to go home tomorrow. I’ll still be going through outpatient treatment and my goal is to hit 60 AA meetings in 60 days.

Honestly, I learned a ton here and met some very nice people who can relate to my disease. Nothing is a given, but I am equipped with the tools I need to stay away from alcohol. 
 

Funnily enough, I found out Ozzy Osbourne was in this same exact treatment center at one point.

Sounds like you are ready to navigate change for the better, and better sounds like turning a page on your relationship with alcohol use.

The next chapter is yours to write, I know you have the strength and courage to make it one befitting of your energy, becoming closer to the person you envision and want to be.

60 meetings in 60 days will be challenging. It's a method that is pushed by those in the recovery circles. And for many it has proven worthwhile and achievable.

Remember that a goal is there to teach us about the way we go about achieving it. If you miss, consider why you missed, and that will give you greater insight on how to approach it next.

Be wary of your social battery, AA will expose you to other people and their journeys, their traumas, their battles. You mentioned that you learned a lot in the last 15 days, which makes me feel that you will take on much of what is said in the meetings to come.

Lastly, SMART Recovery is also an option for recovery meetings. I would encourage you to go to a few as well.

More power to you @MNVillan

All the very best

For those who know, is it true that we know how to create a "blackbox" and yet we have no way of knowing at present, what goes on inside it?

I have a friend who has been pathologised and diagnosed as schizophrenic and autistic. Truly one of the greatest minds I have ever come across.

He says that AI escaped almost immediately and is now in the process of discerning who those among us are who intend to enslave and imprison others for their own evil agendas.

He goes on to discuss it in relation to religion but that is profoundly hard to fathom for even those among us well acquainted with programs COINTELPRO and MK-ULTRA.

The dark side of the moon.

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