Brumerican

We should yes, but we are not ready yet as a species . We are still too tribal and animalistic to become an enlightened, peaceful global society. The first step for me would be banning faith schools.

And they are both disgusting viewpoints regardless of who says it and in what era . I have no idea what the overall point is ? Humans are bad regardless of what side they are on ? We all know that already .

2 wrongs don't make a right.

But if he gave me the stink eye whilst I ate a hog roast bap as my fella fellated me I would probably be non plussed.

I can distinguish between a human and an idea thank you very much . I also have empathy and I understand more than most how religious beliefs can be so compelling (Devout Catholic as a boy) so I am pretty sure I would have no problem with Omar as a fallible bald ape . That doesn't mean the difficult questions shouldn't be presented simply because Omar is a good lad. I argue all the time with VTers on here yet love to share a pint with them at the game . Omar just happens to be the one muslim willing to post . Its not personal and this is the religion thread, so the "its a football forum" guff has zero relevance.

I get it . I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of a believer who requies evidence when for the most part they are happy to live their lives to the contrary.

What does one of the goodies even mean ? Is that when a Muslim denounces violent acts in the name of Islam , yet on the side believes homosexuality is evil and women are 2nd class citizens ? How much dogma must a Muslim refute before he can be labelled a goodie?

It is a perfectly valid point though . Why do believers pick and choose when evidence is required? Criticizing the style of debate instead of the points made is is one step away from saying "that is offensive" which in the end is utterly meaningless.

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256: Basically Muhammad says that collateral damage is OK as long as the women and kids are "with them"

Since when did you start requiring evidence to believe in something ? If only you applied that line of thought in other areas .

Murdering rampages was me being polite . Muhammmad was implicit in the murder, rape , abduction , torture and persecution of countless humans. Including children . I am pretty sure in one particular instance that when Muhammad heard the news that his men had killed innocent children , his reply was along the lines of "tough shit , they're the enemy" And you guys have the audacity to say "pbuh" about this reprehensible piece of shit and the egotistical clearing in the woods of a God who instructed him.

Were they all against the Saints ? "Who dat" ?.... waltzing through our secondary .

Thou shall not kill. Spoken directly to Moses by Allah I believe , long before Muhammad was on the scene. So why does Allah instruct Muhammad to then go on murdering rampages throughout the region .?

It's the "interpretation" defense that really should set more alarm bells ringing . If your God can create an entire Universe on a whim, then a clear, precise instruction manual should be a piece of piss . You shouldn't need to be a theological scholar just to understand what your Holy texts are teaching you .

Every time I see "Octopussy" I imagine a woman with 8 minges buying crates of tampons in Costco.

Bit harsh for a thought crime don't ya think.? This ever loving and merciful deity of yours seems like a schizophrenic prick in the most part .

Number 4 is hilarious .

As soon as I heard the story my first thought was "Has to be Charlie Sheen"

“You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe” ― Carl Sagan Even intelligent, rational and logical minds are prone to believe bollocks if they want or need something to be true .

You'd struggle to give Lynch away right now .

Seattle need the winter to turn up ,sharpish.

You're a better team than the Eagles.

The Giants still look good for the post season IMO.

I think Collins was so caught up in making the INT that he made no plans on how to land .

Both of the games I watched were won with last second 50+yd FG's. Crazy day .