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9 minutes ago, Xann said:

A very inefficient language.

the words next to it are maybe more efficient?

15 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

The argument that most people dying must have had an undiagnosed condition has a fatal flaw. If there are so many undiagnosed conditions about, what makes you think that YOU haven't got one? 

That's the issue isn't it, which is why the behave like you have it & stay home as much as possible advice is sensible. My wife's mom came on a trip away with us last year, completely unaware that she had cancer at the time, didn't find out until weeks/months later. Just because you look/feel ok doesn't mean there isn't something bad going on inside & it seems that this take advantage  of that & will make whatever you may have an awful lot more of an urgent problem than it would otherwise be

Ok so after leaving my house for the first time in 2 weeks this definitely isn't a lockdown that is going to stop people getting it. It may slow it down a bit but my local high st looked pretty much business as usual other than the smaller shops being closed. Loads of (mostly old) people out and about with bog roll & paracetamol in plentiful supply

1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said:

This post doesn't - at all - prove the prior argument that 'It does seem primarily to be clearing out people who would have likely died this year/soon anyway', though.

I didn't say it did but when nearly 50% of the deaths are over 85 years old and that the average age in a country like Italy that is swamped is 82 I would say that there is a pretty good chance that a good portion of the 20-30000 or so 80+ year olds would have died anyway given that 100000 old people die every single day and this has been going on for 2+ months. 6/7 million people have died of old age since the beginning of feb. Corona accounts for about 0.5% of that and of that 0.5% I would suggest that half of them may have died anyway

7 minutes ago, snowychap said:

Really? Really?

Blimey.

150,000+ people die every single day that is well over 100 people every single minute, The vast majority of them (2/3) will be age related.

40,000 mostly old people dying as a result of this over 3 months is about the same amount of people that that will have died of "old age" by the time you wake up in the morning after going to bed tonight

1 hour ago, DCJonah said:

I know this sounds **** up but I hope he did have some underlying issues that just hadn't come out yet. 

Because if not, that absolutely terrifies me. 

Horrific story and my heart goes out to that family. 

complete guesswork but i imagine many of these young ones dying would have been the usual "19 year old footballer has heart attack" "completely healthy 24 year old dies of unknown hole in heart" type stories you see a few times a year.

It does seem primarily to be clearing out people who would have likely died this year/soon anyway, guess the death rates come the end of the year will be interesting to see if this has just wiped out the majority in a few months that would have usually been much more spread out. No offence to anyone who has died/lost family/friends etc but there have been an awful lot of photos of shall we say "quite round" people in the papers that are apparently perfectly healthy/no underlying health condions.

1 hour ago, Stevo985 said:

Story from my company now is Furlough plan is first 2 weeks full pay (80% claimed back from the government)

3rd and 4th week is full pay but only for 3 days and the other 2 will be taken as holiday.

After some googling there's nothing I can see in the guidelines that means they can't do that. There's all sorts of FAQs online and they nearly all seem to suggest that they can do that

Anything to do with the bank holidays for easter?

1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said:

 

Could be worse i guess, Jennifer is the woman on the left side of the screen...

47 minutes ago, Villarocker said:

Has anyone else gone more than the advised 7 days of isolation whilst having the virus? Today is my 8th day. I was hoping to get out of here but still have the nightly sweats and a cough. 

Breathing still not right after 2 weeks. Last time i left my property was the 17th

1 hour ago, Zatman said:

Its the 8th article down on BBC behind Carra and Neville 90s photo session. This is not going to be important to the mainstream media as some people think it will be. Only Villa and obsessed blues fans really have an interest in this 

does anyone actually look at the bbc website? front page of tabloids & he is pretty much the entire sports section on the mails website with 7/8 articles out of the top 20 or so, actually looked even worse earlier when you had to scroll through about 3 screens worth to get anything other than grealish. Even the top sport story on the guardian and still links to articles from earlier in the day on the main football page there

4 hours ago, Wainy316 said:

Another upvote for Tiger King.  Batshit crazy.

I found Joe kind of endearing at first but that had gone by the end.  All the other big players were just clearings in the woods rights off the bat.

mad isn't it. You kinda sit there watching thinking this is some of the stupidest shit i have ever seen and then the next episode starts and it's even more bonkers

this seems to be doing the rounds. Think the no big jump in death rates thing is pretty obvious given that there have only been 1200 or so deaths  associated with this in a month or more, a good chunk of which may well have died anyway given the ages/existing health conditions.

In other news Kate Mcann is trending on twitter after telling people to stay indoors to protect our weaker ones. As you can imagine the reactions to that are rather amusing if a little on the dark side.

another 260 deaths in the uk. Takes the total over 1000 (1019) Just under 7000 tests done yesterday, 35% of them positivie. Seems that these are still pretty much only people being hospitalised (& celebs/politicians i guess) so who knows how many are not in the numbers that have just died at home & are not being included in the deaths. May aswell just use random number generators for everything really.

Spain keeps going up.

832 deaths & 8000 new cases in past 24 hours,

46 minutes ago, Xann said:

Could have at least put the music before it

Nearly 1000 dead in italy today, Doesn't look like their lockdown has had much/any effect to the deaths.

1,919 combined dead in Italy, Spain & the UK in 24 hours. The small numbers are quickly starting to become big numbers now

On 26/03/2020 at 09:10, Nigel said:

Quick reminder that ozark starts it's new series on friday.

halfway through, today has not been a productive working from home day...

2 hours ago, sne said:

More than 17.200 new cases yesterday in the US and all Trump can talk about is how much people are dying.... to get back to work.

If ever there was a time for thoughts and prayers.

at least they are getting some sort of idea of numbers rather than the complete guesswork over here. They have done more than half a million tests so far compared to our 100000 or so. If you are testing more people you are going to record more cases. the 11,658 number of cases in the uk is completely meaningless

21 minutes ago, Xann said:

We're sort of lucky that this didn't come a few months earlier.

Memories of a Christmas fecked, and a New Year washing your crack out in the freezing garden.

If ever there is a time to be locked in your house i guess this is probably the best time of year to do it, Not too hot, not too cold so don't need central heating or fans to try and stay at a comfortable temp. Bit of sunshine & generally warm enough to sit in the garden if you have one. Would be far less fun doing this in the middle of summer/winter

39 minutes ago, Jon said:

How's your symptoms mate?

Still the same really, Feel ok for the most part but still out of breath easy & struggle a bit at night, same for you?

47 minutes ago, stuart_75 said:

No idea what accent that was supposed to be. Bits of Irish, American, Geordie....allsorts.

Apart from that not a bad effort from Richie. Who was the MILF who played Mickey's wife? FAF!!!

That would be Michelle Dockery, Better known for being in Downton Abbey (Mary Crawley) although she was in that stupid Liam Neeson Non Stop film a few years back too

3 hours ago, MaVilla said:

Genuine question, how many people die each year on average from normal flu?

Indontnknow ignites less or more than covid-19, the difference may be every single covid death is tracked, where death from cold/flu related illnesses year on year just isnt publisised.

No idea.

a shitload, half a million or more worldwide. If it was something new like corona the lockdowns would be far worse than this as there would be 10,000 dying every day rather than 20,000 total in 3 months, a good chunk of which would have probably died anyway given the average age is around 80

This year in the states :

With flu season still winding down, at least 144 children younger than 18 have died, a toll topped only by the 2009 H1N1 pandemic since health authorities began tracking flu data in 2004.

So far this season, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has recorded 36 million flu cases in the U.S., with 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-03-20/coronavirus-pandemic-overshadows-a-deadly-flu-season

This is actually down a good chunk on the past couple of years

18/19 in the states 35,000 flu deaths

17/18 in the states 61,000 flu deaths