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Erm yes it does mean something, he's proved he can score against the BEST TEAMS in the country, AND NUGENT HASN'T!!, anyone who understands the game would agree, and again you miss the FACT that he's been playing out wide so he's hardly gonna get loads of chances is he?, you told me on another thread to "chill out flower", well i suggest you take your own advise!!.

Obvious with the FACT that Gabby has scored 6 goals in his first full season mainly playing out wide including scoring at three of the top fours grounds, Nugent is older than Gabby and has never played in the premiership, again it's not rocket science. :roll:

WTF :? Walcott can run with the ball. Gabby can run. There is a difference And did i say Gabby was better than Walcott?, read my post next time :roll: And also i think it's a bit silly to claim Gabby is just a "runner", the kid can finish as well as most strikers in the league imo.

Demitri top level proven players simply are not going to join a club not even in the UEFA cup. We may get the odd one with some previous baggage (ie Carrew) but not enough to rebuild an entire team straight away. Surely its best to buy these potential top players to compliment the slow influx of proven quality over the next few years. After all why put all our eggs into one basket and hope the young players we have will make the step up (odds are they all wont) so surely its best to spread the risk and buy as many as we can. Tottenham and especially Arsenal have been doing it for a while and it has not served them too badly! And what has spurs won?, what have Arsenal won this season?, at the end of the day there's no way Nugent is better than Moore or Gsbby so for me it wouldn't make sense, especially when there's likely to be the likes of Tevez, Bent and Ashton just waiting to be snapped up in the Summer. So why is Nugent in front of Gabby in the England U-21 setup? Even playing for a lower division side... just asking Because the u21 managers have been nobs , and Walcott seem to be the speedy one they chose to play up front with Nugent being the more physical striker, but i think it's obvious that Gabby in the long run is the better player.

Demitri top level proven players simply are not going to join a club not even in the UEFA cup. We may get the odd one with some previous baggage (ie Carrew) but not enough to rebuild an entire team straight away. Surely its best to buy these potential top players to compliment the slow influx of proven quality over the next few years. After all why put all our eggs into one basket and hope the young players we have will make the step up (odds are they all wont) so surely its best to spread the risk and buy as many as we can. Tottenham and especially Arsenal have been doing it for a while and it has not served them too badly! And what have spurs won?, what have Arsenal won this season?, at the end of the day there's no way Nugent is better than Moore or Gabby so for me it wouldn't make sense, especially when there's likely to be the likes of Tevez, Bent and Ashton just waiting to be snapped up in the Summer.

I'd have to agree regarding us signing Bent, the only problem is figuring out how much Charlton are gonna demand?, if West Ham did bid 18m for him in January they are gonna want at least 12/13m for him.

It's extremely naive to suggest just because Yaya Toure said he'd like to play alongside his brother (of course he would) that it means we couldn't get him, Arsenal were meant to be certs to get him after the world cup while he was at Olympiacos but instead he ended up at Monaco where he's been brilliant, Arsenal simply have too much talent in the middle of the park like Silva, Diaby, Fabrigas ect so as i said before he is gettable, and just because you think Sidwell "is more realistic" (which i think is rubbish) that doesn't mean he's the best option, and if "so many fans here have been calling for Sidwell" where are they now?, i'm sure the majority would agree if there's a better player availible like Toure then the likes of Sidwell are not needed.

Petrov is in his first season so i'd be inclined to at least wait until next season before judging him, Veron might not have set the world on fire in England but he did win the title with Manure if i remember right!!, he had his moments that can't be denied and i'd love a player of his quality at Villa, and you're wrong regarding the four players i mentioned, Toure is like Diop in build, Muntari is also 6 foot and strong, and as you've said Appiah is a power house, only Mokoan out of the four isn't that big but he's still better than Sidwell, your worries regarding Tevez "creating divisions" doesn't really hold weight imo, Carew is said to be on good money and at the end of the day if we want to compete with the best we have to pay the going rate, if anyone in the villa squad doesn't agree with that they can put in a transfer request for all i care.

You're talking complete rubbish, "big" doesn't exactly have to be in height it can be in strength and build, Sidwell looks not much bigger than Davis to me, and it just proves what your ambitions are for the club if you would have wanted to sign the likes of "Bullard" :roll: , and excuse me but did you see Henry and Bergkamp when they first arrived in the premiership?, i think they've proved that form isn't everything and class is perminant, for years we've been signing average players like Mccann and imo Sidwell falls into that bracket, it's time we sign some proven star names who has performed at a high level, we've got Carew and we can get more, don't be scared of change, if you really think Sidwell is better than the likes of Appiah, Toure, Mokoan and Muntari then i'd question if you've ever seen these players play.

Erm i think the fact that Tevez is proven at international level and is a big name in the game has something to do with it :roll: , it's not a "contradiction" at all, and if you wanna talk about "top 8 side" Wigan were in the top 8 for ages last season and got the League cup final so should we sign Lee Mccoulgh now?, if you knew anything about Yaya Toure you'd know he's desperate to play in the same league as his brother (the premiership) and his team Monaco haven't done very well this season, he's been their one bit of quality and i'd be confident we could get him, Yes but that doesn't mean they are right does it? :roll:, imo he's an average player who won't take us to another level, our team is short enough as is it and imo we need someone big and imposing in the middle of the park who can get up and down the pitch and can both defend and create chances, Sidwell isn't even on Boateng's level imo.

I agree Blittle, Sidwell scores a few goals against us and suddenly "he's the next Vieira" or something, he wouldn't take us to the next level imo and is just living off a "good first season" ala Reo-cocker (even though he's clearly class), Davis, Ricketts ect, I think the likes of Yaya Toure, Appiah, Muntari and Mokaon are the way to go in the defensive midfield department, they are light years ahead of Barton, Sidwell and Nolan imo, as for strikers i hope Mon considers Tevez, the man is clearly a class act and at the right club i think he could be the next Zola.

From The Sun You know it's funny, i remember a young French lad who came to the premiership and was written off as "not good enough", then he joined a championship side and scored 30 odd goals and was the main man in his teams title win, then he came back to the prem and set it on fire and earned a transfer to the team who is top of the league right now, what's his name?, oh yeah that's right it's LUISE SAHA , Kamara imo would be a decent signing, he's improved greatly from his days at Pompy, i remember seeing him put on some brilliant displays in Seria-A before he moved to pompy and he was compared to Henry, even Milan was very interested in him, he had everything in his game but the only thing he didn't do was score loads of goals, but it's different now, his finishing has been superb this season and it's clear he's a class abouv Championship level, his goal at the riverside was just an example that he stills knows where the back of the net is on the premiership stage, he's only 25 and it clear Mon is watching the lad, if he continues like he is then i don't see why we shouldn't go for him, people shouldn't be so quick to judge players, i know we all want world class signings but that's not gonna happen right now, i'm sure the Seville fans thought "Freddy Kanoute? wtf?" but he's gone and scored something like 25 goals for them already.

oooh ignore button off, a deal for a player from Wolves and a deal for a player from Albion, both to Aston Villa, a team who abide in Aston, in Birmingham. Well obviously Davies would be the one from West Brom although the lad Kamara has been on fire this season, and i know we've been linked with Murrey from Wolves but the big midfielder Olifengania (sp) has been pulling up trees in the middle of the park for them from what i've seen and he's got big potential,

I saw the lad make his debut this season for Leicester and i thought he was definitely one for the future and it would be an excellent signing imo, he looks a bit like Joachim in build and he's as fast as anything, he's left footed with lots of skill and has been giving right backs a very hard time from what i've seen of him, he can also play up front too and has scored 3 goals for them, he reminds me of Lennon a little bit, obviously not as polished but can reach those standards with the right coaching (Mon) imo, he scored the winner in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpfBpwJSIY0 UtV

Completely agree, Arsenal have been taking the piss as far as getting all the talent from Africa is concerned and it's time we took the same path, UtV

I can't believe the Harewood bashing tonight, The man scored 18 goals for West Ham last year including 4 against us, 1 each against Manure and Chelski, And again he proved he could score against the big boys by scoring the winner against Arsenal this season and also set up Reo-cocker for the winner against Manure, I mean yes he's not the world class superstar we all hope will grace villa park but to write him off before he's even signed is harsh, I'm not sure if the deal will even happen but let's give Mon's signings a chance at least, UtV

First Davids hair and now Harewoods looks, Do these guys have to win a beauty pageant in order to win your approval? Harewood done very well last seaon but i'd prefer us to go for the likes of Carew and Klasic to be honest, UtV

On talksport this morning they had a reporter from the Scottish press on and he said we have been in contact with Rangers about Ferguson already, I must say i'd be ok with us signing him, He didn't do too badly at Blackburn after he got over the injury and i'd liken him to Petrov to be honest, The talent is obviously there he just needs time to settle, For me Ferguson is a step up in class from Mccann as he's very good going forward as well as tough in the tackle and he's a leader which we badly miss, UtV

It wouldn't be a big risk at all as the man has been banging in goals in the champions league for fun, He's also a freekick specialist which would come in handy, I'd be happy enough with us signing Dica amoungst others, UtV

I think Curtis Davies is on the list without doubt as i mentioned before, Bardsley too and we've also been strongly linked with Qpr's left winger Lee cook, And i wouldn't rule out Matt Murrey the way our goalkeepers have been going, I must say i'd be dissapointed if Nugent is the only striker brought in as i'm not sure he's any better than Luke, With the likes of klasnic and Carew on the market there's lots of choices but let's just see what happens, UtV

Reports in France suggest Lyon are willing to let John Carew go for 5m which would be a steal to be honest, I've also heard the Curtis Davies deal is very close so let's hope there's some positive news heading our way soon, UtV