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3 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

Why? 

We haven't had Adidas previously. 

I think you're naive to think he had nothing to do with it. He came in on the back of getting major corporate sponsorship deals for the 76ers. Its why we hired him 

I have no idea why this bloke has become the target for such stick on here. 

Madness. 

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Nas, who's on the board at Adidas, might have had slightly more to do with it.

Me too...

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1 hour ago, blandy said:

Struggling with this one. Currently stuck after 3 wrong guesses. May have been on the sauce, but…I’m stuck

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4 hours ago, CVByrne said:

We want to expand too. Knocking down the stand the moment we qualify for the Champions League and have turned Villa Park into a fortress isn't the right time or way to expand however. Wait two or three years and look to expand other parts in the interim. I believe we're adding another 2,700 seats to the capacity but not sure exactly where that is happening. It was announced 

And if you believe they're going to do that, I've got some magic beans you might be interested in.

4 hours ago, blandy said:

You miss the point about wages as a percentage of turnover required by UEFA to reduce down to an allowable 70% from currently 90%. This takes no account of ground building, lost income from a demolished stand or much else. And it's that which is (I think) the catch. I'm not talking about domestic P&S rules, but the UEFA ones, as they're not (yet) aligned.

If (and I'm sure they do) the board and Heck want to compete viably in Europe, then that means wages to turnover being no more than 70%. If you reduce turnover by several millions a season for 2 seasons then you have to reduce wages, too. And that's on top of having to reduce the percentage spent on wages from a currently allowed 90%, to 70% by 25/26 season.

Look, I agree with you that we've desperately needed the stand replacing and a larger capacity for a long time, and I don't like that they've sacked off doing that, or that the communication has been truly abysmal. Or that Heck in particular seems to fail to understand the nature of involvement fans have in the UK, or any apparent aptitude for being "open" - he appears to be a kind of "I'm doing what I'm doing, I'm not explaining and I'm not listening" kind of bloke.

But put yourself in his shoes and there is a logic to it (even if I don't agree with his decision).

 

There are provisions in the UEFA FFP regulations to apply for a voluntary agreement. If this was as a result of having reduced income for two years because of knocking down a stand, I can't see that there's any way that that's not going to be agreed to. So if all other being equal, we'd only breach their break even regs because we were without the 6,000 seats in the Noth, they'd accept this if the future cash flow projections showed that we'd be back well into credit when the stand was finished in two years.

Good second guess for me on that one. I can see what everybody else did and I'd definitely have gone that was as well.  BUT I DIDN'T, SO SUCK IT UP LOSERS!!!!!11111

1 hour ago, thabucks said:

I find it hilarious how het up some grown adults are getting over this - It’s just a badge and more important things to worry about … Are we performing well on the pitch wearing claret & blue ? If the answer is yes then just enjoy if the answer is no then bitch & moan … geez 

What did you think people wee going to be talking about in a topic cunningly called "Future Club Crest & Brand Identity"? There are plenty of other topics for you to look at if you're not interested.

2 hours ago, blandy said:

The problem, from his perspective with that, is that it decreases revenue while you're taking 2 years doing it. And at precisely the time we're hoping to be competing in Yurp and trying to attract better, higher paid players to make that competing in Yurp successful, which means FFP gets in the way - you can't offer better wages on lower revenues in the short term. Get established in Yurp and increase Euro TV income etc. and perhaps also increased existing stand capacity, and then do it.  The transition in Europe FFP rules from 90 - 80 - 70% of income,  over the next 3 years, on player expenditure combined with being "new" as a club to modern European competition means delaying the North Stand rebuild probably makes sense from Heck and the owner's perspective.

Yes, his communication and apparent people skills are somewhat lacking, looking from the outside, anyway, but there is a logic if you look at it dispassionately (which is his job).

Like all investments, there's never a perfect time to do it, but the sooner you commit to it, the sooner you start to see the benefits. The FFP rules were updated last year, and allowances are made for anything that improves the facilities at a club. So for example, knocking a stand down would mean less income obviously. The loss of this income would be allowed in the FFP calculations. So effectively, the calculations would still be made as if the stand were still there, which wouldn't alter the ability to bring in new players etc. Other than that, the majority of the increased income from being in the Champions League comes from commercial sources, and wouldn't be affected by not having the North Stand there at all. Sorry Pete, it makes no sense at all. Villa Park isn't big enough, and the longer we take to make it bigger, the more and more we'll fall behind in revenue terms. In 2026 we could have a 50,000+ stadium, with enhanced facilities and a much better corporate offering, and we'd be bringing in millions more a year. Now we won't, and we're stuck with an eyesore of a stand with terrible facilities.

Revenue, you say. I've got an idea, let's take our oldest and smallest stand, and then increase it in size so we've got an extra 10,000 fans in the ground.

32 minutes ago, fruitvilla said:

An optimist?

 

A blithering idiot.

They’re not going to use a badge they haven’t got the trademark for, because then anybody could copy it. Obviously this is the new badge.

5 minutes ago, thabucks said:

Have to agree … even though I don’t mind our name being on the bottom of the rumoured design … 

That's miles better.

The colours work, it's properly spaced out, and the fonts are decent and consistent. if Villa fans can churn this stuff out in half an hour why do the club always make such a balls up of it?

1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said:

What the hell is that colour for the outer shield? Is it supposed to be claret? Or is it..

A very dark blue. 

 

 

Johnny......

This is the simplified one from 2015:

If they wanted the words 'Aston Villa' in they could have just changed the AVFC at the top, and there we go, job done in about 30 seconds.

Also, yet another completely avoidable amateurish way of going about things. Saying you're going to reveal the crest in a few weeks then letting somebody find the designs on the trademark website. Heck hasn't got the first clue how to do anything properly, I think he's actually the George Weah's cousin of the marketing world. Apparently at Southampton they used to stand around scratching their heads watching the fake player in training, well it's exactly how I feel watching Heck in action. Sooner or later they're going to do a Scooby Doo reveal and work out he's really a used car salesmen from some small town off the interstate in Iowa. He's making it up as he goes along and wondering how long he's got until somebody works him out.

11 minutes ago, Farlz said:

Take the shield away and there's a nice simplified version which I'm sure will be used a lot. 

They were doing that with the Lerner badge already, and could have carried on doing that, without wasting everybody's time for the last two years.

Just now, est1874 said:

I'm withholding my opinion until I've sat with it a while, which I would counsel others to do.

You were bound to hate it no matter what they produced, no?

Well, no. But taking the widely disliked Lerner badge and leaving it almost the same with a pale yellow lion on a blue badge background was never, ever going to go down well. The Lerner effort was badly designed and shit, and they've just tweaked it to make it worse.

That is genuinely terrible. Taking the Lerner badge, and almost unbelievably, making it worse. Way to go, Heck!

Get a proper back up to Ollie in, then loan Duran out, or sell him with one of those fancy buy back options.

I think I'd go for Konsa, as he's been the model of consistency, and has really raised his game in the absence of Mings.

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I think Bicks already did it?

Anyway, not me today!

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Great start to 2024!

Happy New Year Wordlers!

1 hour ago, tomav84 said:

yet, officially anyway, it is

Nonsense. Officially, where? He's not credited with an assist anywhere. Premier League main website, BBC, Whoscored, nope.