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    The banker loving, baby-eating Tory party thread (regenerated)

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    22 minutes ago, bickster said:

    I didn’t know who the other gimp was with his hair tied up. He was in Mumford and Sons and then it all made sense, he’s the son of a Hedge Fund tycoon. Hardly your average musician, in fact he’s not even an average musician.

    To even call him a musician is a bit much to be honest. 

    If they are getting the likes of him, I would be intrigued to see them get someone like Barney from Napalm Death on the show.

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    The banker loving, baby-eating Tory party thread (regenerated)

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    1 minute ago, hippo said:

    Depends.

    I think the era of the mavericks is over.

    All those checks and balances, boring ministerial codes, select committee s etc - are there for a reason.

    I hope the Tories and indeed the nation now recognise that.

    Sadly I don't think they will. The Tories won't change the rules as the rules suite them. 

    If the nation doesn't like it, then don't vote Tory. It's not complicated. 

    The banker loving, baby-eating Tory party thread (regenerated)

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    7 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

    Looks like the Heil still loves him. 

    Screenshot_2022-07-07-08-09-03-61_aee2dc313af8a92a16fcafcae1270359.jpg

    Actually think this might be a good thing in the long term. Paint the current Conservative party as the traitors and never vote for them again or at the very least for the foreseeable. Then see Boris either form his own party or join the reform party (unlikely though having just checked Farage’s twitter) and then split the vote completely allowing for someone sensible to actually take control of the country.

    We can but dream at least.

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    The Gravy Feud® and Other Gastronomic Delights

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    1 hour ago, Seat68 said:

    I ain't going to lie, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. 

    Well…

    The beans are wrong with fish for a starter (don’t like beans anyway so that’s a given). As @bicksterpointed out, that lemon “wedge” has the core, what on Earth that sauce is on the side just looks wrong. The fish has an extra appendages and those chips look dry and tasteless. I also suspect that plate is Wetherspoons so you will end up putting your money in that twits back pocket. 

    So nah, not much wrong with it! Think I would rather have the chippy gravy that @blandy gets, at least that looks relatively edible (barring the sacrilege of the gravy, but even that will probably be decent quality).  

    The Chairman Mao resembling, Monarchy hating, threat to Britain, Labour Party thread

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    9 minutes ago, bickster said:

    1. Their figures are a bit behind the current running average of the polls

    2. If you do the User defined Prediction, you can get it to list every constituency and with the current running averages I get LAB 318 Con 238 LD 17 SNP 51 Plaid 5 NI 18 and one Indie (Devon East)

    That givers Labour just 7 short of a majority BUT...

    That really doesn't factor in Tactical Voting which a lot of commentators expect to happen this time around, If that does happen I expect the LibDems to gain more Tory seats than the prediction currently shows.

    Yeah I mean I did just a 2 minute Google search to get that as a general idea. Agree with all your comments and yeah tactical voting will play massively into it. To be honest I could very easily live with a Lab/Lib Dem coalition.

    The Chairman Mao resembling, Monarchy hating, threat to Britain, Labour Party thread

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    1 hour ago, bickster said:

    They aren't "only nominally" ahead. Currently averaging 40% - 33% ahead and have been for most of the year.

    Taking a rough figure of 32 million voters at an election (roughly how many voted in 2019) that gives the following vote totals if translated into an election (This isn't a prediction btw)

    Labour 12.8 million

    Tory 10.6 million

    LibDem 3.8 Million

    Or put it another way Labour has 20% more voters than the Tories do.

    It's a significant amount but the anomalies of FPTP favour the Tories

    Indeed.

    Current Prediction (1 July 2022) from https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html is that Labour are 16 short of a majority. Based on this though a coalition/support from Lib Dems would cover it without the need to involve the SNP; just. 

    Party 2019 Votes 2019 Seats Pred Votes Low Seats Pred Seats High Seats
    CON 44.7% 365 33.3% 129 247 357
    LAB 33.0% 203 38.7% 210 310 433
    LIB 11.8% 11 11.8% 9 17 39
    Reform 2.1% 0 1.2% 0 0 0
    Green 2.8% 1 5.1% 1 1 1
    SNP 4.0% 48 4.0% 30 51 55
    PlaidC 0.5% 4 0.9% 3 5 7
    Other 1.1% 0 5.0% 0 1 3
    DUP   8     8  
    SF   7     7  
    SDLP   2     2  
    Alliance   1     1  

    The Chairman Mao resembling, Monarchy hating, threat to Britain, Labour Party thread

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    5 minutes ago, Nicho said:

    The problem being if he comes out right and says the truth about brexit, you have lost the vote of every person that still believe in brexit (and that is a lot) including members who wouldn’t usually vote against labour.

    Unfortunately it’s the way it is. I do truly believe we will return to the EU, it will take multiple governments about 15 years to come to a clear consensus.

    Yeah I think this is the tactic to be honest. We know he genuinely believes that better in than out. The reality is that if he did say “we should not rule out Single Markey or Custom Union” the Tories (and Daily Mail, Sun etc) will immediately accuse him of being a traitor to Brexit and instantly lose all those potential votes. So long as the Tories are getting those votes, Labour is not getting into power. 

    Once in power he can tailor it, especially if they have to do a coalition with the SNP or Lib Dems who will both be pro Europe - that can be explored in the future. 

    There are also some levels of engagement with Europe outside of single market or custom union (e.g. similar to Switzerland) which would be infinitely better than the current sh*t show. 

    I honestly think it is not a terrible idea making the pledge, certainly right now anyway. It means he doesn’t have to go on the defensive on the issue and focus on other matters to criticise the Tories.

    U.S. Politics

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    So in the last week the Supreme Court has:-

    Strengthened Gun Rights 

    Removed Right to Abortion

    Limited the Government's ability to put in climate control

     

    In 1 week. Absolutely bonkers. 

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