VillaDave Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 At this moment, I just want to be proud of my team (not talking of winning trophies or CL football) just to walk away from Villa Park or see them in highlights and be proud that they are my team. I'll live and die a Villa fan, I'm not expecting the world just would like to be proud of them.......... Agree also. Perhaps its just me, but its only in the last 18 months that I've felt truly disillusioned. Ellis takes some of the blame for that. so does O'Leary. So do the players. To say that there's been no highspots, or no reasons to feel proud of the Villa in the last 20+ years is ridiculous. As Pete so eloquently put, it all comes down to money. Ellis has set his stall out. The Comers have set theirs. Who is prepared to budge (or will the both)? Liken it to buying a secondhand car but on a larger scale. You NEVER pay the original asking price. You NEVER pay less than it is truly worth. You should NEVER pay more than it is worth. 99 times out of a hundred you meet in the middle and amicably agree on a satisfactory price for both parties. That, to my mind is exactly what is going on behind the scenes at VP currently. The leaks to the press are just attempts to apply pressure and strengthen negotiating hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Copenhagen Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Am I selling to the right people? will they (ahem) look after "my" property as "well" as I did? I might be thinking that completing the deal will happen, as long as "they" behave well. Are they the "right sort" The price - 20 million to me, or 15, is kind of immaterial. These things, call them foibles, or whatever, will maybe be the crucial ones, from Ellis' viewpoint. As Pete so eloquently put, it all comes down to money. Ellis has set his stall out. The Comers have set theirs. Who is prepared to budge (or will the both)? Now I agree with most you wirte, but I think you need to find a place for JP in all this. Ellis can sell, but without him selling as well who wants to buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonrx Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 The saga continues; from TeamTalk: The Irish consortium bidding to take control of Aston Villa have indicated the next 48 hours are crucial to their hopes of succeeding. Sources close to property developers the Comer Brothers and lifelong Villa fan Michael Neville are insisting the £64million deal is "still alive". They have again insisted reports suggesting the takeover bid has collapsed are "not true" and that talks are continuing with Villa chairman and major shareholder Doug Ellis. But Villa have still to receive a concrete offer from the consortium amid speculation they need to find another £10million to meet Ellis' asking price. Ellis, who has indicated a willingness to sell after two decades in charge of Villa, is understood to have reached the stage where privately - if not publicly - his stance is "put up or shut up". A source close to the consortium insisted: "The deal is still alive. Reports that the bid is off are not true but the next 48 hours are crucial." A Villa spokesman said: "We have not been informed of any change to the position. Our statement to the Stock Exchange still stands." In that statement before Christmas Villa confirmed they had received an initial approach and were in discussions as regards a possible takeover. Ellis, 82, had told shareholders at October's annual general meeting he hoped to have some concrete proposals to put before them within a month. The consortium had set their stall out to complete a deal before Christmas but the slow nature of events means Villa manager David O'Leary is unlikely to receive funds in time to be able to move into the transfer market during the January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Another 48 hours? Where's Eddie Murphy becasue thats all we need now to complete this comedy. :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaDave Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 The Irish consortium bidding to take control of Aston Villa have indicated the next 48 hours are crucial to their hopes of succeeding Hellelujah! Its raise, call or fold time at long, long last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Copenhagen Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 The Irish consortium bidding to take control of Aston Villa have indicated the next 48 hours are crucial to their hopes of succeeding Hellelujah! Its raise, call or fold time at long, long last. Says an undisclosed source :-) - lets see it is not the first deadline is it. I am hoping, but if I was the Comers I would play hardball and stall since Ellies is runnig out of time and JP should want to sell before Ellis dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Losing interest now. Someone wake me up when this is over one way or t'other. For now I'l just concentrate on what the club is all about, football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonBurgundy Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Let's see who has the best poker face - mind you i heard Ellis invented that also, along with the tie break system in tennis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheVillan Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Has anyone come across a more frustrating character than £llis ??? Christ, the blokes a nightmare. 80 effin 2 and still at the rudder........... man is that dire ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Losing interest now. Someone wake me up when this is over one way or t'other. For now I'l just concentrate on what the club is all about, football. Same here its a joke, Villa can never do anything quickly and we all know what the hold up is. Ellis wants more money and to still be around. For **** sake he's like a fart in a lift!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 more like 48 years. shouldnt elies write off to guiness book of records for being oldest chairman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_av Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Losing interest now. Someone wake me up when this is over one way or t'other. For now I'l just concentrate on what the club is all about, football. Richard I'm impressed - have you seen the light WHAT ABOUT THAT FOR MY 2000TH POST ON VT - WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT EH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity-Tom Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 If Ellis cocks this one up I would fear for him as the backlash will be more severe than anything he has ever encountered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing_Gravity Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 If Ellis cocks this one up I would fear for him as the backlash will be more severe than anything he has ever encountered! Now that all depends on if at the time Villa lose three games in a row or win three games in a row. Villa fans, shallow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 not really LG, most like the easy life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_av Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 not really LG, most like the easy life. Ah - that old chestnut :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 but it's true Lee, if people really cared that we are run by a sick old man, that Leicester can buy Fryatt, or Pompey their players or the fact we have such a small sqaud then they would do something. some protest some discard ST's 3,000 have **** off but the majority care but can't be bothered, there is no other explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 And the vast majority just moan and want someone else to do something...... and then many of them moan at those people for trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_av Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 but it's true Lee, if people really cared that we are run by a sick old man, that Leicester can buy Fryatt, or Pompey their players or the fact we have such a small sqaud then they would do something. some protest some discard ST's 3,000 have **** off but the majority care but can't be bothered, there is no other explanation. Really scrapping the barrel aren't ya. Fryatt - unproven - shows promise, but we already have Luke. Pompey - they have spent £7m worth of shite today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_av Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 And the vast majority just moan and want someone else to do something...... and then many of them moan at those people for trying Hail to the revolutionaries!! :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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