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5 minutes ago, wilko154 said:

We also sold Christian Benteke  bought Jordan Ayew & Rudy Gestede and were relegated...

Didnt realise we sold benteke to Wolves thought it was Liverpool.

Also sold Delph and Vlaar and the other midfielder on loan (cant remember his name while typing) left.    So that was pretty much the spine.  Bought a load of players with no plan and with a complete muppet as Manager in Sherwood.

Hoping that the current regime have a better plan and organised way of doing things.

If Tammy goes he goes.  We find a different way to play with the players we have got or are going to get.  It is what Dean Smith is paid to work out. 

People should sometimes look back at history to maybe predict the future.

We sold Andy Gray (A much better Striker) to Wolves for 1.5 million and ended up replacing him with some Journey Man called Peter Withe.

Wolves finished above us in the 1979-80 season in the old Div 1.

42 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said:

I think, SGC, that the answer possibly depends on where you live.

To me, Birmingham City are just another team. I have no feelings about them one way or the other. I just want to beat them, same as I want to beat any other team we come up against.

Well I now live in Norn Iron and both my boys are Villa Fans.  When they go to the local football camps they love it when they find out one the coaches is a Blues Fan and they tell them exactly how much better Villa are   

They both have grown up here but they just know!

On 10/10/2018 at 15:49, villa89 said:

Just realised our current home shirt is a rip off of the 1984 one, Luke out!

That was one of the reasons I didnt like it and couldnt understand people saying it was our best shirt ever

5 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

To be honest I’d be happy with just a shirt sponsership from Adidas at market value. Which included kit manufacturer.

Not a fan of Luke gear.

Nor me

For me he looks a little scared to make a tackle and has been that way since his tackle on Coleman while playing fro Wales.  I think the backlash he received after that has out him on the back foot.

His performances also dropped from that point.  A bit more confidence and maybe get him back to where he was when he first came, when the majority of us considered him a great improvement at left back.

On 05/10/2018 at 10:09, meregreen said:

Bruce wasn’t very good at finding keepers was he. 

Bunn came in when Sherwood was Manager.

10 hours ago, The Fun Factory said:

From what I have heard Saunders did not get on with Ellis at all. Had Doug become chairman in 1978 again, Saunders would have probably quit.

Though I was too young to know what was going on at the time, Late Seventies there was a boardroom battle where it was basically Ellis vs Saunders.  I think Saunders stood up at a Shareholders meeting to speak against Ellis.  Luckily Saunders won the battle.  Ellis left the Club and I think invested in Wolves.

I bet most of us had a big smile when Smith was appointed, not because he was our choice for the job simply because that it could have been one of us getting the Job, someone who grew up a Villa Fan.

9 minutes ago, hippo said:

I think if your old enough its more like Graham Turner who had done well at Shrewsbury

I did think of that comparison myself BUT When Turner was hired we were what 2/3 years after being Champions of Europe so the Ellis cheap option was a bigger jump down.

Also Shrewsbury were always bottom half of the then Div 2, where Smith has Brentford 6th currently.

1 minute ago, AvfcRigo82 said:

I think a combination of Bruce and Lambert wrote it.

We go again...

I think it is time to start giving 110% again

Wasnt Steve Round sacked before the New Owners came in?

We have played safe many a time over the past few seasons.

I'm all for taking a risk and going with Henry/Terry combination.

I do not like Rogers, think he flatters to deceive and has his head up his own arse.

7 minutes ago, rjw63 said:

Just something I read a few minutes ago, allegedly he's a bully and a prick

I think he was investigated for something within the past year.

6 minutes ago, sne said:

I like the parts where he bangs on about how massive a club we are and at the same time claims he is the best manager we can get.

 

It is called getting the message out there.  If it is said and heard often enough people will start to believe it

7 minutes ago, briny_ear said:

This guy seems to have mainly a commercial background, not much actual CEO experience, so I guess we wait to see how it pans out. 

I was mildly amused and irritated in equal measure by the fact that Dr Xia had to have his own paragraph on the club statement, as if to suggest he still has some influence over events. Not sure how sustainable it is for this split ownership to continue. I want the guys who are really in charge to have full control. 

Xia owns 40 something percent so I think technically he is at the moment the majority owner, and I think part of the process of the others taking over is that he saves face in China by looking like he is controlling things

It is a step up Liverpool/Chelsea vs Aberdeen/Everton.

At Liverpool he will be associated with the owners of the time and might be a bloody good CEO and brought in great contracts for Chelsea due to his connections.  We need that at the moment.  Financial side with FFP is as important as football side.

Consider this, would you associate Steve Stride with the Disaster of Ellis last few years?  If so then he was a failure, but by most of us who lived through the Ellis years hold Stride in high regard and felt his leaving when Lerner took over was the big mistake by Lerner.

I fell Stride doesn't take the flak as he worked more behind the scenes as Ellis and his Ego always wanted to take center stage.  Perslow was the face of Liverpool at the time with the American Owners hiding in the background.  Makes a big difference to perception.

Ive only seen what Liverpool fans think of him but what do Chelsea say? 

He might be hated by Liverpool fans as he was associated with their owners back then.  He found the new owners they now love.

Having Liverpool and Chelsea on your CV is a step up from Aberdeen and Everton!

I feel like I am looking at The emperors new clothes as I just cant see it.

I still do not like the kits even after visiting the Club Shop last week.

I was only a kid of 9/10 at time just have Williams in my head more than Gibson.

On 13/08/2018 at 11:00, danceoftheshamen said:

Without doubt the best manager we have ever had. What a team he built before he was disgracefully treated by the numpties in charge and walked.

Ellis was also a disgrace for practically removing all trace of that teams success as his balloon ego couldn't cope with it presumably as he wasn't in charge at the time and instead presided over 35 years of drudgery & second ratedness which saw us descend from Champions of Europe to multiple relegation's and a couple of League cups.

I personally have been waiting, and waiting...... for a team to emerge which is fit to lace the boots of that Saunders team and have seen nothing close in nearly four decades now.

So best wishes to Ron and i hope the club do the right thing by naming a stand or erecting a statue of him as the guy is a legend at Aston Villa. Much more of a legend than Ellis who was like a ball and chain around the ankle of Villa for so long despite admittedly rescuing the club in his first tenure.

Such a shame to see Ron and his family suffering especially with the football disease (Dementia). I can only thank him for the amazing memories i have of watching that incredible team grace the Villa Park turf and my day in Rotterdam which, although at the time we were managed by Tony Barton, was for certain Ron's team.

I remember it like it was yesterday

Jimmy Rimmer

Kenny Swain

Ken Mcnaught

Allan Evans

Colin Gibson

Des Bremner

Gordan Cowans (Sid)

Dennis Mortimer (Cap't)

Tony Morley

Gary Shaw

Peter Withe

 

Was it not Gary Williams instead of Colin Gibson?

Agree with everyone else - Best Manager we have had.

Right Im digging out my copy of Ron Saunders Scrap Book for my reading tonight.

Yeah Im not mad at Richards as I do think he cared during our relegation season.  Cant say the same about so called support Lescott.

Im mad at the muppets like Sherwood that thought bringing in a guy who famously had issues following instructions and whose body was broken into the club, letting him play where he wanted and making him captain.

look Big Ron hijacked Arsenal's move for Earl Barret.  

We were even further down the road with Unsworth and wanting to go to play at Everton.

I dont know much about the lad to say if we missed a bullet or missed out on the next big thing, but if isnt in a villa shirt he doesnt exists so I dont care.

McGinn said he just felt that Villa was the perfect home for him, this guy might always have had doubts.