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10 minutes ago, bickster said:

“Go back to Pakistan if you don’t like it here.”

That would be racism no?

Go back to Canada, if you don't like it here?

8 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Arguing against a straw man and whataboutism, my 2 least favourite genres.

Fair enough ... but why are you (we) not pointing out passionately these other alleged wrongs in the Middle East?

He is asking whether (perhaps implying) there is a bias. Is that not somehow relevant?

A little rhetorical for my taste ... but it is an interesting point

11 hours ago, Adman said:

If only everyone stood for that, what a world we'd love in

What was the actual post that got him into hot water? I can't seem to find a copy ... screen shot anyone?

54 minutes ago, Thug said:

... bookies ain’t got any more of a clue ....

aaarrgghhh!!!!

On 30/10/2023 at 07:36, mjmooney said:

Where does the light go, when the light goes out? 

A boring answer to a question asked on another thread. The light is re-emitted in the infrared. 

Currently reading Determined by Robert Sapolsky. If anyone is interested in the biochemical origins of our behaviours then this is a book for you. As the title implies it is a pot-shot at free will. I would say it is an easier read than his Behave.

For Diaby's goal when everyone went to 'hug' Diaby, Ollie went to retrieve the ball from the net.

Presumably as a commemoration for Diaby's first Premier League goal.

7 minutes ago, oishiiniku_uk said:

The fact that 6 of our regular starters now (would be 8 if not for injuries to Mings and Ramsey) were mainstays three seasons ago is testament to the job that Smith ...

And possibly even Buendia?

Saw him play twice ... a 4-0 defeat to the Blose (1968) and a 1-4 win over Naarrech (1975)

I can't say I remember much from way back then.

27 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

You'd need to go for Klopp or Pep to find a better manager really. At least in this league. 

Here's a question: do we think Klopp or Pep would have done as well as Emery if they had replaced Gerrard given the same constraints?

On 29/09/2023 at 02:54, mjmooney said:

The whole concept of nation states is the single worst idea that humans have ever had. 

Meh! Compared to the right to bare arms and the like.

19 minutes ago, MaVilla said:

did he have to travel far?

He meant comminuted ... so he's crushed.

15 hours ago, mjmooney said:

Just go to Hay on Wye. 

In recent history ... the last ten years or so ... been there twice. I recall only one bookshop worthy of recall, and an excellent one at that. Being there is not that unusual other than I live in almost rural Canada just an hour's flight from the Pacific.

My favorite bookshop? Crockett Book Company. Is it special? Well, it is small, local and it has survived so far.

Mods ... you can give me a warning now!  

35 minutes ago, PaulC said:

A lot of the planet will be inhabitable that's all I see. 

Err  ... ???

I wonder if literacy will also improve.

3 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said:

More than Jews apparently. A fine example of what a multi racial city Birmingham is, even if I am a little shocked at that fact.

 

From 2018
According to parents and community observers, 80 percent of the students are Muslim. The school declined to comment.

4 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said:

I think it's safe to say when you say "all faiths", you would be hard pressed to find a muslim attending there. 

You really should do a quick google search before writing such stuff.

On 15/10/2023 at 01:23, Rugeley Villa said:

Meh 

Don't worry Ruge ... Halloween is a Pagan festival just like Christmas and Easter, but just a bit more feral.

On 14/10/2023 at 15:33, luckyeddie said:

Halloween can **** off back to America. Bloody trick or treaters, it's just begging. People are starting to make a big deal of it with decorations going up in September.

I'm too miserable for that shit.

 

From

When the British came to North America, they brought these traditions with them. The Puritans of New England, who refused to observe any holidays which might be associated with pagan beliefs – including Christmas and Easter – kept the observance of Guy Fawkes Day on 5 November as a reminder of their supposed moral superiority to Catholics. Guy Fawkes continued to be celebrated up until the American Revolution of 1775-1783.

The rituals of Samhain arrived in the United States less than a century later with the displacement of the Irish in 1845-1849, during the potato famine. The Irish, largely Catholic, continued to observe All Hallows' Eve, All Saint's Day, and All Soul's Day along with the practice of "souling" but these festivals by now were infused with folk traditions such as the jack-o'-lantern.

A different point of view

9 hours ago, Mic09 said:

This issue is much less about religion as it is about nationalism, race, and western influence in the area. 

I'm not sure how you can draw a neat line between nationalism and religion. Jews came to Palestine (Mandate) because of persecution  ... and that persecution was mainly religious.

10 minutes ago, Thug said:

Strangely enough I completely missed your previous reply, even though I went back to look.

That’s why I was so confused.

 

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No problem Thug.  

For me, it is not a question of who is wrong or right, or perhaps good or evil. It is about understanding the underlying dynamics. Of course, I get the Palestinian ire for being pushed around in their own country. I also get the Jewish desire for a homeland after millennia of prejudice. I don't see an easy answer. 

I don't see what the answer can be. But it is not painting one side as black and the other as white. 

I happen to see religion as stupid and in this particular instance as divisive. Again I don't know what the answer is but demonizing one side or the other is not it.

8 minutes ago, Thug said:

You’ve lost me again.

See Panto's reply.

Just now, Thug said:

Whats the short term problem in Israel?

The religious right.

4 minutes ago, Thug said:

I didn’t do this

Perhaps not explicitly. And yet two lines later you point to international law.