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Lots of bookmakers have suspended betting on sherwood going , is that normal or is something happening
Seems like there's a limited amount of bookmakers on any manager to be sacked next. Can still get 25/1 for Sherwood to be the next one to go.
Edit: Ok seems something is happening as everything is being suspended now.
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Genuine question, those who want Sherwood gone, how many points would it take to from the next five daunting games (Chelsea, Swansea, Spurs, Man City and Everton) to give him a stay of execution?
6 or 7 points? Or are you past that and of the opinion that we could get 5 decent results and you'd still want him gone?
A very good question. Given those games 5 points would be enough for me to buy him extra time, even 4 would be a reasonable return.
Unfortunately even that number of points is likely to leave us a long way adrift which is why I think we need to act now.
I think if we aren't more than 4 or 5 pts adrift by christmas we can still get enough points in the second half of the season to stay up. Its not ideal, but with a completely new squad, it was always going to take time for Sherwood to work out his best team, and tactics and for the team to gel. Ok he tried something different saturday to get the service to Gestede but it backfired. Hopefully he learns from that and actually gets back to the formation we had at Leicester when we played so well first half.
Except he doesn't seem to be learning or accepting he's making any mistakes. It may be the case he's slowing learning the job but were not in the position to be taking risks like that.
I don't think that's true at all. Losing these games doesn't mean he or the team aren't learning. That's not how learning always works. Learning can be holistic and cyclical. There's no doubt the team is getting better. You don't think Sherwood has anything to do with that?
The team is getting better? Oh yes dropping Gil and Grealish to the bench and making Hutton our creative outlet is a masterstroke from Sherwood.
You can read. Yep, utterly no question. Does that mean we should keep Sherwood forever? No. Does that mean we are guaranteed to win our next three games? No. Does that mean I am happy with Sherwood or agree with his subs? No. And no.
But yes, I stand by my remark, and I doubt I'm alone in seeing the improvements.
Then please elaborate how the team is getting better, did you even watch the stoke game?
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The team line up on Saturday suggests he's lost confidence in himself and when that happens to a manager like Sherwood its time to get rid. Its harsh treatment but he's turned out to be a confidence manager and that is always short lived.
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not sure blunderland is attractive to Fat Sam. Would have thought they'll go for Pearson
Real issue with Sherwood is we are down already, he has done the damage and we wont come back from this. In many respects for me appointing a new manager now is not about this season it's about next and trying to put something together to mount a serious promotion challenge to get us back at the first hurdle. For a manager to come in and really assess what he has , talk to them and see who wants to stay, target who he needs next season and get us out of the championship.
I don't think we are done but some serious changes need to be made asap. I feel the one thing that were missing is a proper goal scorer, I just don't understand his plan with Gestede he's not good enough to replicate what Benteke did for us and even then we only just survived.
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Genuine question, those who want Sherwood gone, how many points would it take to from the next five daunting games (Chelsea, Swansea, Spurs, Man City and Everton) to give him a stay of execution?
6 or 7 points? Or are you past that and of the opinion that we could get 5 decent results and you'd still want him gone?
A very good question. Given those games 5 points would be enough for me to buy him extra time, even 4 would be a reasonable return.
Unfortunately even that number of points is likely to leave us a long way adrift which is why I think we need to act now.
I think if we aren't more than 4 or 5 pts adrift by christmas we can still get enough points in the second half of the season to stay up. Its not ideal, but with a completely new squad, it was always going to take time for Sherwood to work out his best team, and tactics and for the team to gel. Ok he tried something different saturday to get the service to Gestede but it backfired. Hopefully he learns from that and actually gets back to the formation we had at Leicester when we played so well first half.
Except he doesn't seem to be learning or accepting he's making any mistakes. It may be the case he's slowing learning the job but were not in the position to be taking risks like that.
I don't think that's true at all. Losing these games doesn't mean he or the team aren't learning. That's not how learning always works. Learning can be holistic and cyclical. There's no doubt the team is getting better. You don't think Sherwood has anything to do with that?
The team is getting better? Oh yes dropping Gil and Grealish to the bench and making Hutton our creative outlet is a masterstroke from Sherwood.
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Genuine question, those who want Sherwood gone, how many points would it take to from the next five daunting games (Chelsea, Swansea, Spurs, Man City and Everton) to give him a stay of execution?
6 or 7 points? Or are you past that and of the opinion that we could get 5 decent results and you'd still want him gone?
A very good question. Given those games 5 points would be enough for me to buy him extra time, even 4 would be a reasonable return.
Unfortunately even that number of points is likely to leave us a long way adrift which is why I think we need to act now.
I think if we aren't more than 4 or 5 pts adrift by christmas we can still get enough points in the second half of the season to stay up. Its not ideal, but with a completely new squad, it was always going to take time for Sherwood to work out his best team, and tactics and for the team to gel. Ok he tried something different saturday to get the service to Gestede but it backfired. Hopefully he learns from that and actually gets back to the formation we had at Leicester when we played so well first half.
Except he doesn't seem to be learning or accepting he's making any mistakes. It may be the case he's slowing learning the job but were not in the position to be taking risks like that.
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He isn't going anywhere. He is Fox's man. It doesn't look good for Fox if admits that he made a monumental cock up with one of his first big decisions.
Well he needs to hold his hands up and say he's made a mistake, otherwise he will condemn us to relegation. Any smart businessman admits to his mistakes and tries to correct them in the future.
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my last wish of the day is that England don't play as bad as the Villa tonight...
Don't even connect villa to them, we are the epitome of a losing team.
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We get what we deserve end of.
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COME ON LETS GET A SHOT ON TARGET, IF WE GET ONE ITS A SUCCESS.
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There could be 30min stoppage time and we wouldn't score, need shots on target you know
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Sherwoods ego will never take any responsibility for this shit.
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Thing is I can not remember the last time we scored to draw/win a game, it seems once were losing that's the end.
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DON'T LET WESTWOOD TAKE THE FREEKKICK
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Remember this is Sherwoods master plan!
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haha westwood................................
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How can you take so many corners and still be **** shit at them
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Yes I have the same thing, the oppositions players run into mine and its apparently a free kick to them. Also given away a couple of pens without pressing a button.
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Sherwood talkin bollocks here.
Saying that turgid 1st half was intentional and he wanted us to play hoofball then he was always gonna mix it up after half time.
but then he goes on to say he only brought Ayew on coz gabby was injured.
he really does himself no favours sometimes
Yeah also Lescott was only ever going to get 45min. Shame I thought the subs were Sherwood realising he needs to change games when its not going right.
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This club needs stability, a manager like Sherwood is a risk but could potentially be a great success. A manager like Pullis would of stabilised us for a couple of seasons until the club was sold and then we could look into progressing into the top end of the table.
At the moment its just to risky to give a manager like Sherwood free reins on a club who narrowly avoid relegation every season. I do hope he works out but I have to lay the blame on Lerner who took so long to remove Lambert and then replace him with the risky Sherwood.
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Massive season for him now that we didn't sign another striker. We are going to need him to start scoring some goals regularly.
He needs to prove all the doubters wrong and repay the faith that those who believe in him have had.
I think he will. I also think a lot of fans have made their mind up about him no matter how well he plays.
Nobody would be happier than me if he started banging them in, trust me.
I'd be **** delighted as I've seen him at his best. Just never has the consistency for this league.
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Anonymous for the majority and woeful for the rest.
It's an old cliché but you don't get many chances in this League and those Chance's are falling to Gabby then you are asking for trouble. His touch and awareness have never been great but he made a career for himself with blistering speed and hard work, these days he hardly looks bothered half the time and with his only assets seemingly behind him there is simply nothing he offers.
When was the last time you saw him take someone on and succeed? Todays premier league even teams like palace have quality in them and you can't have players like gabby anymore who contribute so little every game.
Its times like these you will see if Tim's got the balls to change things up and drop him, we have plenty of options so no excuses.
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I really don't understand the Gabby hate. I know he doesn't contribute as much as we'd like, but the way some people here talk about him I can only imagine he is **** their wives.
If he doesn't contribute, what use is he? He may be 'Villa through and through', but fans sit in the stands, players on the pitch - age old rule ;-)
I'm not saying there should be a big love in, or even that everyone should like him. I just don't understand where the hate comes from. We've had plenty of players who contribute less than Gabby. He normally comes good for at least 4-5 games a season so he doesn't contribute nothing.
How can you be happy with a player who's on 50k a week playing 4-5 good games a season (that's being generous). I'm sorry but he's been baggage for to long and has contributed to us being far down the league.
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I'm happy that the squad is being rebuilt with decent players but we've seen too often how when a club loses its star player it takes a step back, and taking a step back from our position means disaster. We may be stronger as a whole but it'll take a while for this team to peak, time which teams don't really have anymore. Our priority now is to replace Benteke's goals and match winning ability.
I hope the team clicks like Southampton's last year, doesn't always take a lot of time.
The Tim Sherwood Thread
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Thanks for the laugh, needed that after yesterday.