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All of which means that while there is a path that will see us out of these financial woes I dont think that any of the current parties would be able to set us on the right course, maybe the last 20 years has shown us that there should be a much better alternative than the one we currently have.

I would say the last 40 years have been a mess tbh. Does kind of make you wonder why another party hasn't took advantage their hopless performances.

I wonder how hard it would be to set a political party up, surely the internet would make it very easy?

Really easy to set up a party.

Getting the media to give you fair representation, having a viable, pallatable alternative and stopping nutters and opportunists jumping on board and discrediting it all - that's a bit harder.

In all fairness to Murdoch he's known for a while he's going to come out of this either as an alleged evil twunt that was possibly just incompetent, or as a proven evil twunt.

He's looked at the options and is trying for alleged evil twunt that was possibly just incompetent.

It's what lots of people would do.

Try giving her a cola enema and then stuffing her full of mentos.

She'll **** love that

thanks for making me laugh out loud in a silent office

Lulu - Lou Reed & Metallica

I know I'm going to get strung up for this, but I've really enjoyed lulu by lou Reed & Metallica. Neither is a natural for me, I have absolutely no 'metal / thrash / whatever it's called' in my little music library but for some reason this one appealed.

Late contender from me...

The Black Keys - El Camino

that's good to hear, it's on my Christmas list!

later this week, This is England 88

spot on!

They also do little packets of chocolate covered almond flakes that are gorgeous, but opening the box whilst accelerating up the motorway sliproad can be, er, exciting.

I don't get my expenses paid unless I get the girls in admin a little percy.

Fairly funny in that I do like a bit of a shock, but a bit sad if someone actually had a hint of meaning it.

Reggae, curry, ska, pasties, techno, lager, chilli, stout, fried rice noodles and beansprouts, icecream, free speach, free movement, bhangra, cheese rolling, chips, gravy, football, the occassional riot, the vote, opportunity, paignton zoo, independent music shops, cheeky kids, the ability to talk back at the police, the nhs, good access to Wales.

That's pretty difficult to beat.

The Corinthians' Democracy (Portuguese: Democracia Corintiana) was an ideological movement and an innovative way to manage a club, recognized in Brazil as one of the most important actions in the intend to struggle against dictatorship and the only movement of this nature installed on a football club known to this day. At the time, it was a challenge to the military government even to spell "Democracy".

Led by the cultured midfield maestro Sócrates[1] and by full back Wladimir, and with the consent of club president Waldemar Pires, the squad players took control over the management of the team Sport Club Corinthians Paulista. One of the most notable decisions they made was, in 1982, having "Vote on 15th" printed on the back of their shirts to motivate fans to vote in the first Brazilian multiparty election since the 1964 military coup.

The movement had the backing of artists and intellectuals, such as senior media creative Washington Olivetto, who coined the term Democracia Corintiana. Eventually, the government reacted, as Brigadier Jerônimo Bastos, head of the CBD, warned the club for interfering in political affairs.

Football was art that could influence society, I'll have a little whisky later to say bye bye.

Looking forward to seeing Sunderland rise to a position where they can qualify for Europe.

Then not bother.

many many years ago before I met undisputably the best woman in the world I had a bit of a one nighter.

I was in the local discotheque, called the Fantasia Lounge but known locally as 'the fanny'. Met a girl who was new to town and clearly keen to, er, make new friends. Went back to hers until the early hours and had some very stimulating conversation. Early hours I made my excuses, legged it home, quick wash and change and back to work. I was a bit cheesed off because you could see where I worked from the house I'd been in all night. Anyway, jogged home, got sorted and jogged back to work a little late and a lot knackered.

New woman on reception, had a quick chat, turns out she's also new to town. Where you living? asks I. That house there, she says, pointing at the house I've been in all night.

ooooooo.k. nice. Had an incredible urge to mention I knew her daughter, but resisted.

Tubby,

Sorry to hear you encountered a pillock. But we all grudgingly know they are universal and not confined to the usual quoted handful of bad clubs. A bit of beer a game of footy and some people regress to a pathetic grunt state. Rise above it and keep on keeping on is all you can do.

To slightly counter it, I'm from South Wales and I got a last minute ticket off this forum from some really great guys. No problem and no side to them at all. Couldn't understand half of what they said mind. A good laugh, a good day out, I even sang a couple of rounds of sheep sheep shaggers for good measure.

I'm hoping Swansea stay up, I could get used to that trip out.

Daily Heil exposes somebody spouting obvious rubbish just to make money from a warped world view.

Ironical really, don't you think?

Is there any tiny, remote possibility that the vast majority of people that go to an Icke gig are going to be entertained. I'd probably go (though not at £45 admittedly).

As for whether he is the son of God? The correct answer is Yes. As are all of us, even the handful of VT naysayers that still haven't come round to the fact yet.

Didn't see any of the game. Went to Eurosport play by play after reading some of this thread and was surprised to see they thought Delph had a good game and Collins had played excellent. Were they really that clueless or are posters on here being overly critical of players they don't rate?

Delph was patchy, rubbish to start with but improving over time.

Collins, started with a bit of hoof ball then had a number of opportunities where he had time and space. Poor bugger didn't have a clue what to do as there was no movement, no obvious communication.

Funny thing was, on the one accassion early on when we did need to clear it up field, Hutton (I think) tried to play it out and got caught.

Swansea: Escort magazine. entertaining but lacks penetration.

Villa: Argos catalogue, a bit dull and full of over priced tat.

Many years ago we had cad in the office for the first time. Somebody somewhere made an extra tenner by selling us a little spinning propeller thing that was supposed to anti static the air or some such.

We quickly realised that if you touched device and then touched someone else they got a zap. Quite funny, unsuspecting people getting zapped all day.

Then I wondered, what if you kept your finger on it for ages.....and ages....and ages, then touched someone's ear.

BANG! and they drop to the floor. That's what happens. Nobody touched the evil little thing again.

My grandad just got back from our church's Christmas fate, and he won the raffle. The prize he picked was a voucher for 2 people to have a stadium tour of Villa Park before august 2012 for free. Now considering my grandad is a bluenose, these are no use to him so turns out he picked them just to give to me Happy days!

so a bluenose gambled at a church fete and won a tour of Villa Park....yet there are still a couple of people on here that need to see proof God exists!

ah the romanticism of the A41, just outside Market Drayton

Anybody staying over should have a constitutional morning walk along the sea front down the Mumbles, a fiver in a taxi from the centre of town will get you to the Mumbles. If you've got transport get yourself across to Caswell Bay, immense, and depending on weather some really good surf.

Anyone staying in the centre of town, it may not be obvious but you're quite close to the waterfront and harbour, you can go shopping for a yacht.

Lovely part of the world, just a very small warning on rugby loving jack dick heads if you go out drinking. Though my taffy accent is probably more of an issue for them than any Brummie accent.

Anybody remember that youtube hit a couple of years back of some tranny kickboxers getting picked on? I think that was the centre of Swansea.

try 17 / 18C and a jumper, warm enough and you'll single handedly save the world

lots of people in UK moan about fuel bill hikes and wander around the house in a tee shirt in december

Or, move to my office in Redditch where apparently the right thing to do is to crank up the air con and open the windows.

I need help with a secret santa gift, we have decided to do a secret santa between a group of friends mixed girls and boys. I have picked the worst possible person one of the lads and need a guys opinion of ideas to get him, the limit is £10 and his personality and interests are as follows, he isn't really in to any sports he tolerates watching Villa and more of a Inter Milan supporter! What he tends to do in his spare time is play on the xbox, Fifa, COD etc... And he goes to college in the week.

I really need some suggestions as to what get him or ideas, anything would be appreciated!

If there's a Hawkin's Bazaar anywhere near you, buy him something silly in there.

A question for the atheists: Since abandoning religion...

.... My parents sent me to Sunday school when I was young (I suspect so they could shag whilst I was there) .....

which is fine providing they stayed home

An opportunity for some rare unconfined sex is probably the only reason any parent would send kids off to Sunday School without feeling the need to attend church themselves. Best of luck to them too. The church knows the deal. Here are my kids, you have an hour a week until they are 12 to try and get them all goded up. Do not come back within the hour and expect the door to be answered.

Alabama 3 last night, Cardiff Coal Exchange, superb

support band were my now new fave band Johnny Cage and the Voodoo Groove

good dirty rock n roll fun with burlesque strippers and a pole dancer

a bit fragile today