chrisp65

yeah, it wasn't supposed to be a direct comparison, I think I was broadly trying to say there are lots of groups that can lay claim to a need for subsidised or priority housing, coupled with soldiers knowing they were going to be soldiers.

Admittedly my limited experience is via RAF, they were moved over UK and Germany many times, but knew all along that one day that life style would stop and they had a big house problem looming on the horizon. I will concede all 3 RAF families in my larger family were relatively well paid astute guys and had the finance and acumen to plan ahead.

My main point would be let's not start a bidding campaign or points system for limited housing that has already lead to a property bubble and 4 years of shit. Let's build sufficient housing. It's surely a no brainer. It get's Britain working, it actually makes a product rather than a service, it will lead to innovation, it will house people.

Don't pick who gets the house, build another house.

I read the article in the Indie, I almost told someone 'I know her' and then I realised I don't actually !

You came over really well in that article, a sort of grounded sporty celeb, good for you kiddo.

Can I just mention at this point I am currently rocking my own unique style of, er, relatively skinny m&s jeans, a tweedy checked brown jacket BUT prescription glasses. So that's your stereotyping blown out of the water.

OOooh Shostakovich, just plain fantastic.

it's 4, 5 and 6 for me, but strangely far less 5 this season

'kin 'ell that is some awesome artwork

Makes my picture of me with a coffee down Barry Island beach look a little lame. I have now stolen it.

Chappy, you are allowed to say you listened and it was just a load of someone else's crap you know.

I listen to Classic FM. Take that 6Music.

Is Henry Kelly still on there?

Couldn't be doing with the adverts for me. It's bad enough on freebie spotify.

It is a very tricky issue. Any dissent from the help our brave boys line and you are tarred as sympathiser with al qaeda or some such.

If being brave is the threshold for housing, let’s add in miners and fire fighters. If serving your country is the threshold, let’s house nurses and bin collectors. If it’s being shot at, add in the Met….and on it goes.

If I considered joining the army I would include in my consideration that there is shit pay and people will try and blow my legs off. It’s horrible, but it surely surely can’t be a surprise to new recruits can it? They don’t really think they are going to practise marching and be a back drop on Top Gear do they?

I’ve lived in and around a number of RAF camps in the UK and Germany. Some of the people there (who would consider themselves a cut above the average squaddie) really didn’t deserve decent accommodation. You do presume people born and bred in the UK understand the basics of community living.

My personal ‘fix’ for this situation would be to kick off a massive council housing building programme. We have nurses and soldiers without homes, we have mad house prices, we have a flat line economy. **** your quantitative easing. Grow a back bone, forget your Thatcherite back story and build six new towns (with heat pumps and electric car charging whilst you’re at it). It’s what government is actually for, the big stuff. Not dicking about with family tax credit tweeks and re branding schools.

ooooh, that looks like a proper mix

Cooper Temple & Sonic Youth have both been on my 'to do' list for a while

good man

I think choffer went awol so if you PM'd saturdaygig's you got a copy.

Tracklisting by the way -

Dry The River - New Ceremony

The Mynabirds - Numbers Don't Lie

Sarah Jaffe - Better Than Nothing

The Epstein - Calling Out Your Name

Kopecky Family - God & Me

The Crookes - Bloodshot Days

Mergence - Dynamite & Kerosene

Eternal Summers - Pogo

Law Abiding Citizens - Little L

Meg & Dia - Down The Open Road

Allo Darlin - Darren

And Selby Jase - My Pills and My Slack

Dum Dum Girls - Coming Down

Of Monsters & Men - Little Talks

Pepper Rabbit - Older Brother

A really good listen

could anyone tell me which side of the list is the artist and which is the song title?

thinking about it, it was a bit off of CI not to ask that formatting question a bit earlier in proceedings

I've taken to having a little notebook and pencil (from a christmas cracker no less), next to the radio to jot down titles to then order (from an olde fashioned shoppe in town. Costing me a fortune.

Just read Keane's comments about a possible return to the premier league - maybe there's more to this USA jolly than just idea sharing with the Browns coach....

When i read the above post, for some reason, i thought it was concerning the return of Roy to the Premiership and replacing AM.

Don't really know whether to be sad or overjoyed that its not?

Would anyone consider Roy Keane as a replacement for AM?

At least with Roy Keane you'd know that like him or loathe him he'll throw a moody in 9 months time and never been seen again. Only to pop up occassionally and slate some behind the scenes aspect of our club.

Nah, not for me, other than it would jolt us out of the current slo mo train wreck.

it really is rather grand...

I'm sure we've had a 6 music thread before, but it was probs along the linbes of 'save 6'.

Anyway, my Sunday's have been somewhat enhanced by the likes of Cerys M and Huey M. Today I've also had John Cooper Clark's music playing away in the background. He's played some Tenpole Tudor, PP Arnold, Eddie Cochran.

Sublime.

Hi Folks,

I currently don't know a lot of people who have been made redundant.

I am not saying that I know the whole of the UK, I know a few people here and there not loads. I know quite a few people in the building trade and they seem to be stacked for work. Plus the few people who I know who have been made redundant have found jobs straight away. A few who I know in the factory manufacturing who export to the EU who still have stacks of work and demand has increased.

This seems contradictory to what the media are saying.

Surely there are positives.

Does any one you folks know many people who have been made redundant and who are finding it difficult to get a job?

I know plenty of people that have been made redundant, from many different walks of life. Invaraibly those that have re found work have done so on inferior terms to their previous job.

Many that have stayed in employment have seen wage cuts and inferior terms.

There will always be good stories and bad, good experiences and bad, it isn't a black and white thing. That's best illustrated with the fact that this month both the number of unemployed and the number in work both went up.

I think for many, there is a feeling that they are surviving, but are one duff order from a problem.

Between all three of the main political parties there is a distinct lack of desire to take on this mythical british saviour 'the city' and an eye for an easy target 'lazy sickies'.

Perhaps somewhere between tory desire to make the disabled work and nulabour desire to close down Remploy their could be a sensible compromise.

as BOF says, what you don't appreciate is that poor lorry driver is trying to cook beans on a camping stove. is getting a £30 special off a nice Wolverhampton lady and texting his missus.

Then some idiot wants to pull off the motorway.

I received mine on tuesday, along with a nice signed squad photo of Villa from the 78/79 season! Haven't had a chance to listen yet but will hopefully do soon. Need to get mine in the post too.

It was pure coincidence, I re discovered the photo so took a copy and shoved it in. I've even still got the Aston Villa franked envelope it came in!

I'd written to the club as a kid and asked for autographs and that's what they sent me. Made me wonder what the club would do now if a kid writes in asking for autographs? I might carry out a test on that, see how things have changed 34 years later.

the 10% appears to be discretionary / random.

A Director in our company was done at 53mph at the overhead sign a mile or two away from the Severn Bridge. 53, in a 50 zone on a motorway.

A few months back I was stuck on the M4 outside Bath for a few hours. When the traffic was eventually released the police had clearly kept us all waiting so they could get their nice plain cars in place. Over the course of the next few miles it was like a game of tag with about a dozen cars pulled over for speeding. Nice to know there is so much police resource available for emergencies.

If Rangers are allowed into the english pyramid, will it be Newport County that have to make way for them?

with respect and in honour of all those stars that died tragically early

It's interesting in that it really shouldn't matter, but that is the same loop I went through with the Mini.

I really fancied one, I could afford it.....then I noticed sooo many of them were driven by girlies. To my shame I backed out of buying one with that as the main reason.

Car choice coming up again in about 10 months and I've promised myself to have another look.

I was under the impression they were designed and pitched at WAG's?

Also in today's Independent (and totally unrelated), Jenny Jones makes an appearaqnce in an article on Snowboarding Holidays in St Tignes, France. Very nice little name check, well done kiddo.

on the subject of sleeping with other people's partners....

I am in principle against it, it's not a good thing. But, it's a lot more complex than yes / no, good / bad. For me and where I'm at now, it's an absolute no no. In the very very distant past I did have a bit of a fling with a girl that was also dating an amateur boxer. She'd been going out with him for ages, they were a known local couple and had been for some time. Anyway, an opportunity or situation arose and being a dumb young thing I took it. Several times.

Part of me thought it was cool doing a boxers missus. Part of me thought I had the insurance back up of he was the one guy in town that couldn't hit me (end of boxing licence).

Anyway, eventually word got out (beer leads to bragging at that age). Shortly afterwards two things happened. His missus stopped seeing me and I got the kicking of my life for no apparent reason from a bunch of strangers I'd never seen before that had been going from club to club asking for me.

Years later it transpires he'd been ok with me doing his gf as he had some sort of problem with that side of things, it was other people knowing that he'd taken exception to. People are complex.

I have to confess I love London and I don't feel any arrogant vibe from the area.

Yes, they can be pushy and in a rush and more interested in the profit margin on jobs than some other regions. But it's a capital city, it goes with the territory.

To label any region as arrogant is a bit sweeping, but if I was forced to I'd say tou can get attitude from Yorkshire, Manchester, Scotland and Wales. But not always. I know some really self effacing Yorkies and a couple of guys from Leeds currently in London which should be a perfect storm of arrogance but they are really great.

For myself, I can't be bothered with rugby, generally love england and have two distinctly separate eyebrows, so I'm not stereotypically Welsh.

Back on the 'lympics: I've had to go down to Weymouth a few times recently. Best of luck to anyone thinking of watching some of the boating events. Set out in plenty of time. The nice new road is still single lane and knackered by a single lorry or tanker or tractor at any point.

Apparently, during the events they are going to try and ban wide vehicles and tractors etc.. The fact they have that contingency plan shows they know it's going to be horrible.

Where's the fun in a race that's over in ten seconds?

same attitude I get off my missus

I've gone for two quick songs, no titles, no tracklist, a photoshop enhanced picture of my cock and my grinder nickname.

Thought anymore would look too keen.