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Thanks. I missed the spell check process.

Hi Tom, I will assist you in putting some context to your thoughts, since I am fairly familiar with a situation that would apply here. I do know of someone who suffers from schizophrenia very badly. It is very plain for anyone to see. He claims to hear voices and says that he receive revelations from an invisible God. His name is George Bush, and as you know is Commander of the most powerful, most deadly military the world has ever seen. He claims to have heard a voice which told him to invade Iraq. This in and of itself was somewhat of a horrible situation, but Mr. Bush could not do this alone. He needed someone to believe in his schizophrenia. Lo and behold, up pops the Poodle/Clone (Tony Blair) who must also be suffering from schizophrenia, for he stood behind Mr. Bush in these hallucinations. Then Mr. Blair and Mr. Bush send each other little secrets that their spin doctors create which are released to the press. My question is this; If this psychopath (Mr. Blair) tells you that you must send your children and citizens to be sacrificed in more pointless wars (Iraq/Iran); would you do it? Since most men in western civilizations are somewhat literate (I know, I’m being generous here) they must be somewhat informed that some of their tax dollars are spent killing innocent people and raping them literally, and also of their resources. Everyone knows that these murderous activities are against the law of the land, yet you are asked to be an accessory to murder by paying a soldier to do your killing for you. My second question is this’; would you be an accomplice to murder by paying for it? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” - Henry Kissinger

I know of the group, but not their beliefs. U.S. and not an SDA or ever been. Say, do you think Beth will answer my questions? Thanks Sparky. I don't know if Beth will answer or not, that is why I was checking into it. We have lots of people who have hounded us for years, throwing questions at us... etc. In reality they did not want answers, but rather, only wanted us to follow their agenda of how they felt we should live.

SDA is short for Seventh Day Adventis.

Sparky, Do you already have some background on the group in question? Do you live in the U.S.? Would I be correct to conclude you are an SDA or have been one in the past? Terry

I've got to hand it to you snowy, except for the last line about the 48, it is the first reasonable thing you've posted since I've been on this thread. You are not blind, just stubborn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, "higher education" destroys knowledge, governments destroy freedom, corporate media destroys information, and religions destroy the voice of God.

Terry - Why did you not answer my question ?? Hi Billy, Bible translations are not much of an issue to me. Men read their favorite version of the bible, but they do not hear the voice of God in their soul. The bible to them has become a dead letter, for they do not want to obey it anyway (Thou shalt not kill, Remember the Sabbath day). If a man was stranded on a desert island with no bible of any kind, he could still read the Word in the sunset and hear Father in the “still small voice”. I hear God speak in a nursery rhyme and in the call of the coyote echoing through the canyon. I also hear Him in the “pure fiction” that you refer to. The real question is; do you hear God saying “This is my beloved son (Michael) in whom I am well pleased.”? Can you read, understand, and accept that Travesser is the long awaited for return of Christ? This is the living Word, can you hear it?

I prevously stated a few posts above, "The context of all but one entry remained identical as was posted. Isn’t that what the “edit” option is for?" I admit that I spoke to hastily and will change that to "the context in all entries remained identical".

I wrote my original post purposefully and in such a manner that one would have to be on drugs or inebriated to not know I was with Strong City. No one could have said what I said unless they were here. It was a no brainier. In your post on page 5 you implied I was being deceptive in my first statement. In my united response to you, I stated that there was no dishonesty (deception) involved. So by adding the sentence, not for you, but for future readers, I only clarified what was already stated by me - there was no deception involved. In this light, the context of the post did not change in the slightest.

My 3rd post on page 5.

It is true that I did go and proof read and edit most of my posts, but except for adding one line to one post as well as the song link, I only changed typos and bad grammar. The context of all but one entry remained identical as was posted. Isn’t that what the “edit” option is for? T.C.

Well folks.... it has been very enjoyable and educational to visit with you on your forum. Some of you have taught me that the atheist/infidel has a very big goal in life; it is to bring doubt into the mind of anyone who believes in the one true God and His Son. He is not curious as to this Being, but his questions are only meant to tear down and even kill the faith that one may have in this Divine Ruler. The atheist is not content to let others enjoy their “fairytale”, but must strive to bring them out of it. This was something I have never recognized before. It may be that if someone reading this thread asks some pertinent questions in the future, then I would respond to them. Short of that, this will likely be my last post. Now, not only is the “End Of The World Cult” film available to misconstrue what our purpose has been; but as a fitting exclamation mark, Prudence was able to come on here and sling some more mud also. This is a perfect way to make an exit and let everyone make their decision about what is true, and what is the manufactured lie. Snowychap, we certainly could go in circles about everything I say for the next five years, but it only makes me get dizzy, I’m getting off the merry-go-round. Regards, Terry

But Prudence, I've looked at your site. You never once say what you are mad about. Michael has asked you this very question on your site also, but you did not answer him either. Oh, well, if it gets more people to your site to advertise it here, more power to you. I wish you well.

I’d have to take your word for it about how a pimp treats his whore. I would say though, at least the harlot would have the honesty and integrity of character to give an answer to the question - she could probably give many answers. This I have yet to hear from Prudence. And Prudence; you are free to exercise your imagination disecting my actions as much as you'd like. You continue to fulfill the biblical definition of the "accuser of the bretherren" as you do this. And yes, I go to your web site on occasion. Why not? You write about me and post pictures of me and my friends. You have dedicated your life and a web site to slander us. Would it be unusual for someone like myself to go there? I get a good laugh when I read what you have to say. If you were not doing this, I don't believe I would go to your site, unless I just wanted to see how you were getting along.

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Snowy, as with a few other issues, you have no idea of what you are talking about. I have known Prudence for better than 17 years. She did not just stumble onto this site. Following/smearing us is a good part of her life. Yes, she googled as I did, but we are here for different purposes.

Hi Prudence, I thought you would come back to this thread and have been expecting you. Prudence, you say you just “happened” to read about the cancer statement that was made by me. Can you not admit that a major part of your life is just “happening” to follow us/Michael around in order to find things out to try to smear out our happy, holy estate? You are certainly free to do this, but I have a question for you Prudence. Why are you so mad at Michael? Why can’t you just go live and be happy? What did he ever do that hurt you? Can you be honest here? Was it when Michael hired your husband and paid him out of his own pocket to have Jim build you a bigger home (including materials). Is that what hurt you? Was it the times that you went to Michael’s house bawling and wailing because you thought you were being mistreated; and he just sat you on his lap and smothered you with kisses until you got over it? Did this do something to you? Maybe it was when you brought Michael to tears of compassion when you anointed his feet with oil in front of the congregation. Truly he loved you. Was it when Michael offered you a motor home to stay in when you were not getting along with Jim? Did that offend you? I’m just wondering Prudence, how did he hurt you? You have a forum here, can you tell us?

Almost every pastor will tell you he was “anointed” to do the work he is doing. This is all that Michael is saying. Does your pastor stand at the pulpit in front of his congregation and say: “today’s message comes straight from my own imagination, which is based on my lust, greed and envy.”? It would be well if they did this, for it would be true. Instead they say “this is what God has given me to say to you, we must stop the Moslems before they take over the world”. They may read from the bible, but their messages come straight out of their corrupt hearts. Site me one passage in the new testament where Jesus says we should kill those whith whom we disagree (war).

We are very thankful that you are here to discern our true motives. What would life be like if you weren't available to do this? We might be left to think we were simply being honest, open and upfront. Would you like us all to bow down and worship your almighty self-righteousness?

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Yes, we have email. But we also believe it striking down a lie by telling the truth. This was why I came to your thread. If Prudence would not spend her time stalking us, you would not have heard from her mother. If Ben would have told our story instead of fabricating his own, we would not be conversing rihgt now. So the letter was for the benefit of the thread and not for the benefit of Prudence? Cheap. Prudence just made a declaration to the world (internet) that was untrue. It was her mother’s prerogative to use the same venue to set the record straight. Is there something wrong with that?

Yes, we have email. But we also believe it striking down a lie by telling the truth. This was why I came to your thread. If Ben would have told our story instead of fabricating his own, we would not be conversing rihgt now. If Prudence would not spend her time stalking us and telling her stories, you would not have heard from her mother.

As I just said to snowy, I am in it the world just as much as anyone else, but I am not of the world (not like your world). That is why I will be leaving it. I am in your world right now. We are communicating in an open forum - I am not isolated and having no contact with humanity. I see people and visit with people when the opportunity avails itself. I influence them when this is happening, as it is on this forum. It is my hope that all people will recognize that the world is experiencing its last gasps of life, and will chose to accept the solution. Yes, I’ve considered this. I spent much time thinking about it when the claim was made. Just as I believe you are who you say you are, I believe that the man (Michael) is who he claims to be also. I have some questions for you though. Have you considered that your leaders are false Messiahs and false prophets? Do you recognize that your “anointed ones” never deliver on the promises they make to you. Have you thought about how the ones you give obeisance to (by voting for them) only fleece you of your health and your wealth in exchange for a fairy tale (freedom and prosperity)? Have you considered that when you look in the mirror in the morning, you are looking at the Antichrist, if it is not the One True Christ who is dwelling in you?

I meant to have addressed this a while back. The reason that period of time was called the “Dark Ages” is because those who were in power followed their dark dark sinister nature. They did not believe in God, but rather, they believed in a church and in the Dark One himself, whose name was Lucifer. Sure,they went to church and claimed to know God, just like the religious leaders of today (world powers of USA, UK), but the Catholic Church and it’s leaders knew very little about the Almighty and how He treats people. How can I say this. By their fruits we shall know who is following whom. God is love, and the actions of the one following him will not be of oppression and forced subjection to particular dogmas as happened with the Papal power for those many years.

What I follow around is my heavenly Father. I go where he goes. I have learned to love and trust him. This shouldn’t be too hard to understand. It is natural for children to want to be with their parents and do what they have been instructed to do - this is love. Yes, it is true that we are all abusers, some of us however have decided to stop abusing others. When I speak of “your world” and “our world”, I am speaking of the way we live, the way we view others, the way we treat others, verses the way the unconverted world does. As for responsibility, I very well know my responsibility in the events that happen in the rest of the world. That is one reason I live and act as I do. It is to leave as small of a footprint on the world of oppression as possible. I stopped paying others to carry out my abuse any longer. I stopped giving murderers money to continue on with their evil deeds. I stopped paying to educate/abuse children in the ways of immorality. It is because of my responsibility of the world’s evils that I am cooperating in bringing them to an end. I will leave it behind so that it can be purged with fire. I will allow and assist the injured animal to be put out of its misery. Yes, I am very responsible.