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3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said:

That's fine but it's not terrible business on our part if true as if that's what was negotiated by his agent to sign the deal that's just how negotiations work

Yes, I take your point.. seems insane that a club can drop $100m on a player (and there’s talk of them dropping a further $160m on Kane). Wasn’t FFP brought in to stop this? Or was it brought in to stop other clubs from closing in on the elite?

8 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said:

£11 million above the record British transfer fee is light? If a release clause exists it would have been negotiated by player's agent

I think it is light.. I’m not saying he’s worth $100m compared to Pogba but he’s worth more than $100m to us.. if you consider what it would cost us to replace him like for like

Sorry if I’ve missed this but a few outlets are claiming that the $100m is a release clause that’s been triggered. Any truth in this, did he have a release clause? If so, $100m seems a little light and terrible business on our part.

18 minutes ago, MotoMkali said:

 

 

You do realise that is a lot of money right. The difference between 17th and 7th is 30+ million. That's about 1/3 of the base TV revenue money. And I also believe you receive an additional fee everytime one of your matches is shown on TV. So again finishing higher begets further money.

The fact is Jack is worth so much financially to us that selling him for 100 million would be akin to shooting ourselves in the foot. 

This but also we’d be selling a player who has a huge national presence at the moment.. little kids are choosing to support Villa because of him.. they’d just join the plastic ranks of shitty if he goes there.. 

16 minutes ago, Okonokos said:

What's he said?

Just an article he’s written in the Sunday Express saying that Jack’s going to City

Who is Neil Moxley and is he reputable?

1 hour ago, Jareth said:

The ITK on reddit - gets decent info. Has gotten more confident on Jack as the day has progressed. 

More confident on him staying?

56 minutes ago, bose said:

Well this barronwaste guy now seems very sure. Says he’s doing a ESR. He was right last summer at least…

Who’s the barronwaste guy and what’s he claiming? Sorry I missed it?

33 minutes ago, Lord Willard said:

You expecting him to be wearing all black and crying or something?

8 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

It’s the media pushing Jack to City, not us. They wouldn’t dream of writing such content about us when pursuing our transfer targets. We were painted as being second-choice for Buendia. They’d never write that Southampton are expected to accept our offer for JWP. They are insulted that an ambitious and wealthy Villa don’t know their place. 

This

Dean Smith on tv smiling with fans.. doesn’t seem too upset that he’s losing his prized asset?

It’s the last bastion of hope that there is any fairness in football. If Jack stays and we raise our middle finger to the media and to the soulless City then it’s a big score for the dreamers and shows that there is hope left in football. If we bend over the table and let the media and city enter us forcefully from behind then football is dead

1 hour ago, nick76 said:

I know!!!!  This is the funniest thing...you cant even make it up how bad this is.  How the hell do they expect to be taken seriously if they say that we are ready to accept the bid yet they havent spoken to us about it.

But why wouldn’t we accept the bid? We’re a lowly nothing team and need to bow down to our soulless, plastic masters Shitty… we’ve forgotten our place I think

29 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said:

15 pages between 1am and 8am. Come on lads

3 minutes ago, MachoFantastico said:

The amount of so called ITK crap being ridden about Jack and City is beyond stupid, apparently every man and his three legged dog as an exclusive. Just goes to show how easy it is to write any old crap.

Just chill folks and wait till we hear anything official. 

You believe he’s staying?

1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said:

£100m is a bit of a piss take really.

 

Too much or too little?

6 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said:

Fair call, my point was that some people don't care about statues.... Me? I'd pick a statue over an inflated bank balance but then I'm an idiot probably..

 

 

Not at all.. We’d all like to be more successful and have more accolades.. I coach a men’s team over in NZ and we’ve won a few leagues and cups but the highlight for me was getting my name on the “life members” board.. I again show a statue would feel? I’m also surprised that Grealish would leave two weeks before the season starts making it virtually impossible to replace him.. I’d be surprised if he’s do that to the club he cherishes.. but likewise, I could be way off too 

4 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said:

Yeah that's about what I thought, and Delph spent what about 5 seasons and Citeh and Totti a lifetime at Roma.

 

Don't get me wrong I love loyalty, that's who I am I don't care much for money other than obviously needing it.

However loyalty comes at sacrifice, to say it doesn't is naive.

Take the romance out of it, it's not even a decision really.

Im just hoping Jack's a romantic

 

Does Delph have a statue outside any of the clubs that he’s played for?

13 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said:

Come on now. You know who John Percy is. I'm sure he's gotten stuff wrong before but whenever he speaks it's only when something legitimate is happening. This isn't the Sun spouting nonsense so I'm sure you can understand why people would be very concerned when he's writing articles saying things like "there's a medical set for next week" and "It looks inevitable that he will leave."

To be fair it said a medical “expected” next week.. that’s not nailed on, however likely

Who on here is confident that he’ll stay?

5 minutes ago, HKP90 said:

So we let City show the entire league they can cherry pick our best talent at the expense of the plan we’ve been working on since the championship?

We have an opportunity to break into the big time here that we’ve not had for at least two decades.

That will end right smart next week if Jack goes. 

This..

it’s time for the owners to show us just how much business they mean.. that’s if they have a choice 

Unless there is a release clause that’s been triggered, I don’t think this one’s over yet.. Jack would have to want to leave and has fallen out with the vision that he bought into 10 months ago. If there’s no release clause then NSWE would have to agree to the price now these guys are serious businessmen.. $100m is a lot of money but not even a drop in the ocean for them. Plus if they sell then they are pretty much contradicting themselves as to where they see the club.. reports are saying that it would help us to balance FFP out but then how can City spend that money without upsetting FFP? Jack Grealish is a national hero at the moment and young kids are choosing villa as their first club because of Grealish.. I teach in NZ and I’ve got kids who are Villa fans overnight because of Grealish.. merchandise sales etc will all be up this year.. he might still go but it’s be a poor business decision and we’re not run by some mugs

20 minutes ago, hippo said:

Medical expected next week.

I know he's one of the better journos - but think he's guessing here.

Has Percy been wrong before?

4 minutes ago, Farlz said:

Percy has updated his article - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/07/30/exclusive-manchester-city-make-jack-grealish-transfer-bid-100million/?utm_content=football&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1627680755-1

 

So Percy believes he’s going?

I’m assuming that Buendia was sold the vision from Aston Villa’s owners? That’s why he would have chosen us… would that vision have included holding onto our best player? Would any potential target be given reassurances by the owners?

This reminds me a bit of Spurs after him a few seasons back and the media had all reported that he’d gone then he stayed… it seems strange that he’d entertain going now when we are in a much stronger position and potentially on the verge of breaking into the top 4/6. I just watched an interview between reporters on sky and they were talking about this. Jack to City is very likely they agreed on.. when asked about Kane to City they agreed it was very unlikely, even though Kane has publicly said that he wants to leave, because Spurs don’t have to sell….. what, and we do have to sell???