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Just now, duke313 said:

Henderson is going from about £7,280,000 per year (about £3,640,000 net after tax) to £36,400,000 per year tax free, literally 10x the amount.  It might not be "life changing" but it's a significant increase.

Exactly.

imagine if someone increased @bobzy salary from £40k to £400k

He wouldn’t be saying any of this. 

And I’ll  pre-emptively answer the ‘but 40k is not £3m a year’.  £40k a year to someone else would be an absolute fortune that they couldn’t understand why you’d ever need any more.

(I have no idea how much @bobzy earns.  It’s a wild guess.)

1 minute ago, bobzy said:

Just the 1 TV here, you flash bastard  

Lol.

do u have more than two pairs of socks?

one on your feet and one in the wash?

So many people in here not understanding human psyche.

It’s human nature to just want MORE.

It’s what makes us advance.

What if we were just content with what we have all the time?

’why would anyone want to run a hundred metres under 10 seconds.  What’s the point? 10.01 seconds is plenty fast enough.’

’why do you want to fly, walking gets you most places you’d ever need to go.’

’why do you want 2 cars? One is plenty.’

’why do you want to eat any more than a single potato? It’s enough to satisfy your hunger.’

Why do we need cars that can go faster than 70mph? Why do we need designer clothes - a towel covers you up just fine.

why do we need to go to the moon? The bottom of the ocean? Why do we need to make more and more powerful telescopes?

The answer to all these questions is you don’t NEED any of this.  

If most of humanity shared the thoughts of some of you lot in here, we’d never advance as a species.  We’d all still be walking around in the same  place because ‘I’ve got everything I need right here.’

its Human nature to want the most that you can possibly get.  And that’s what drives us forward.

6 minutes ago, calcifer said:

That gif was designed for this moment

33 minutes ago, zab6359 said:

If you are in the UK not sure you can

Even if you are in the uk you can appear to be not in the uk.

Where is the replay available? I’m also interested

2 minutes ago, Jareth said:

I mean it, he has a nice face

I’m not really sure what to say.

Let me examine the picture and I’ll get back to you in due course.

5 minutes ago, Jareth said:

He has kind eyes

Ok slippy.

9 hours ago, villanmac said:

Ffs is got to 45 seconds before I said to myself what am I doing with my life and stopped watching.

Desperate.

I got to 1:01

15 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Blagged his way all his career through to being one of the most coveted young wingers/forwards in Europe and putting up record numbers at one stage you reckon he did then?

Would you say the likes of Delle Alli , Mario Balotelli or Freddy Adu had/have no talent as well?

Baileys first game he was electric - a real player.

Cant help but think the injury/fitness was the bigger problem  than lack of ability.

2 hours ago, BOF said:

MOO-sah or MOW-sah or Muh-OO-ssa ?

It’s moo-sa

its the Arabic form for Moses.

14 minutes ago, bobzy said:

It's not really.

Someone said "95% of people who get the opportunity to get that sort of money... will take it".  You're playing some weird semantics game because @maqroll mentioned "the right offer", but it's clear he was saying he doesn't think 95% of Premier League footballers would move to Saudi Arabia if they were offered the chance.

I agree with him.

Not at all.

‘The right offer’ is very much dependent person to person.  Messi wouldn’t go to Saudi for £300m a year, but I suspect Olsen would for £10m a year.

It’s not semantics, his point is quite clearly that even at ludicrous amounts on offer, most people would turn down an offer to play there, which I disagree with.

With a big enough offer, I would say that almost EVERYONE would be willing to go.  How big that offer is will obv vary from player to player.

Even YOU would go, and I know you’re not a fan of the Saudis in the slightest.

Just now, villa4europe said:

That's outside the realms of reality though isn't it

If someone offered me £1m a year to live in downtown Mogadishu I would but no one is going to make that offer

The scare mongering is getting out of hand

the debate is about ‘the right offer’, not what is realistic.

He literally suggested that if someone WAS to offer you £1m to live in downtown Mogadishu, that he would be stunned if you took the offer.

But you’ve literally just said that you WOULD in fact do it for ‘the right offer’.  Proving my point.

55 minutes ago, maqroll said:

Are you suggesting that if the right offer came in, 95% of Premier League players would move to the Saudi League? That would be quite stunning.

It really wouldn’t be stunning though would it?

By definition ‘the right offer’ means it would happen.  The only thing up for debate would be what ‘the right offer’ would be.

If every footballer here was offered £1bn to play in the Saudi league for 1 year.  I’d be stunned if less than 95% of them moved.

1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Enough is enough, anything more is greed.

But how much is enough?

1 hour ago, QldVilla said:

I’m not naive, just a realist.

Winning and competing in the best leagues and against the best teams in Europe is still the goal of a majority of players.

Golf is not football and a lazy example.

If you believe the best 400 football players in the world are going sign for the Saudi League and only play for money, thats naive.

Can’t say I agree with you.

The more names that go over there, the more justifiable it becomes to others.

Right now they’re concentrating on recognisable top tier names.  Soon they will shift their focus to the next tier to make it a competitive watchable spectacle.  Then they’ve got a marketable product.  
 

if they wanted, they can even afford to broadcast it around the world free of charge - making it the go-to product for football because it doesn’t cost the viewer anything.  Once it is the go to product, then everything else just falls into place.

Think IPL of cricket.

2 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said:

It’s signing Wednesday - 3 chairs at the press conference 

Where will Monchi sit?

4 please.

37 minutes ago, maqroll said:

That having been said, I think one of the things that makes the Saudi equation worse than a hypothetical similar offer from an MLS side is that these Saudi clubs are essentially entities of the state, not independent businesses. So by signing with the Saudi League, you are making a deal with the regime. 

Yes, there is that.

Rather than independent businesses.

6 minutes ago, RicRic said:

Nah felix aint going for no 70-80 mill… atletico would accept £52m for him and we could probably get it down to £45m

Even if we can get it down to £4.50 it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t want to come here. He wants a champions league team (but none want him) and now he wants Barcelona (who don’t want him).

1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Yeah, he’d have struggled massively on the paltry premier league wages, don’t know how he’d possibly give three kids and a missus a decent life.

What are we talking here, the difference between giving them Bugatti’s instead of Porsche’s on their 17th birthdays?!

This is a common, but completely flawed argument.

How much is enough?

Surely ones kids should be happy with getting a BMW instead of a Porsche?

or a Skoda instead of a bmw?

Or a pushbike instead of a Skoda?

what is enough?

You should strive to do the best that you possibly can.  In 6 years, he can set up the next 10 generations of Neves’ - probably more.

38 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Players aren’t in their prime at 35 and it’s also very rare for a player that age to win Ballon d’or.  You reckon he would have gone to Saudi if he was younger ?    

He won the Ballon D’or.  For the first time.

That would make him in HIS prime.  I.E at the top of his game.

Ruben Neves is 26.

regardless, I’m not sure of what the point you’re trying to make is.

MY point is that money rules over all else.  Even at 35, Benzema would have had many suitors all over the world.

He chose a pay packet over heritage.

There is not a footballer in this earth that can not be bought.  I’m telling you now, if MBappe is offered £10bn, he’ll be playing in Saudi next year.

it’s a sad state of affairs, but money spanks the shit out of heritage.

And what do u mean by getting carried away?

18 minutes ago, maqroll said:

The misconception here is your assumption that I'm claiming a moral high ground. I don't begrudge any player that opportunity, and we all make our compromises. 

We are speaking hypothetically, as if we were players. My personal ambition, if I was already a multimillionaire at age 25, would be to play in the best leagues and most prestigious competitions.

My decision would be made easier by the fact that the Saudi regime is odious.

Any player that would turn Saudi clubs or a similar pay offer from an MLS club on political or moral grounds would have my respect, because there's plenty to protest about USA.

 

In that case sir, have a like from me

1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Name one world class player in his prime that has opted to go to Saudi? People really are getting carried away. 

how about the current ballon d’or winner Karim benzema?

5 minutes ago, maqroll said:

That would be your decision, and more power to you. Other people might be satisfied with earning "just" 5m/year while playing in leagues with real standing and for historic clubs, but with the added bonus of avoiding playing for a morally decrepit political regime in a country where 110F temperatures are common and restrictions on women and LGBTQ people are brutal. Not everyone needs to make 30m/year to take care of their families. 

In your eyes a morally decrepit, and likewise, you’re entitled to your opinion.

In my eyes the USA is the most corrupt nation on the planet - where Messi just went for a windfall.

Opinions.  Opinions. Opinions.  Yh, I’ll take my £500m and you can keep your misconceived moral high ground.  Power to you.

9 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said:

Our idiot could have been winning trophies with us if he had shown some loyalty. We were the coming team in 2021 just as we are the coming team now.

And our idiot was looking to get out for years before then too. 

What trophies have we won?

He’s just won the treble.

But Yh, if he had stayed he’d be in the midst of something special happening now.  If only.

Regardless, we got £100m for someone who didn’t want to be here - which is a good deal

Paying a fortune for someone who doesn’t want to be here is a kick in the teeth.

If he ends up here, there’s a bad taste in fans mouth, which could’ve just been avoided by not saying ANYTHING.  Just shut your trap, and wait to see what happens.

Edit: ‘shut your trap’ is referencing Félix, not @Captain_Townsend

38 minutes ago, Zatman said:

In fairness we got 100 million for the last idiot we had that wasn't as committed to Villa

The difference is that our idiot left to win trophies.

This idiot has made it public knowledge that if he comes here, it’s literally because no other club on the planet want him.